By: MarkJ - 4 February, 2011 (12:54 PM) - Score: 17484 - Fixed Line Broadband
virgin media business ukUK ISP Virgin Media Business has today shunned fears that the internet is under capacity and that the new IPv6 addresses are not ready for mass adoption. The comments relate directly to this week's news that IANA had finally distributed its last remaining IPv4 internet addresses to the five world regional registries.

Shortly after that announcement the Number Resource Organization (NRO) promptly predicted that the remaining IPv4 addresses could all be goggled up within the space of a "few weeks to many months". UK ISPs also contacted us to echo their fears, not least about the lack of consumer IPv6 capable broadband routers (here).

Despite these concerns, which could conceivably lead to some connectivity and or performance problems if not addressed by ISPs and manufacturers alike, Virgin has urged firms to stay calm and advised that there is no immediate need for panic.

The Head of Applications and Services at Virgin Media Business, Matt McCloskey, told ISPreview.co.uk:

"It’s important that both businesses and the public realise, that despite recent reports, the ‘IPcalypse’ is not nigh and the internet isn’t about to topple over. The media furore isn’t helpful and my concern is that it’s going to lead to bulk buying of the final IPv4 addresses - a bit like stocking up on groceries before a major storm hits and clearing your local supermarket out of tinned goods. Even with the recent speculation surrounding IPv4 addresses running out, we have yet to see real customer demand for IPv6.

We are advising UK businesses not to panic. They will not suddenly be ‘switched off’ if they stay on IPv4, nor will the new addresses create an ‘old’ and ‘new’ Internet experience. Like Y2K, the impact of IPv6 has been widely exaggerated. The great thing about the Internet is that its capacity is infinite and businesses should rest assured that the infrastructure is in place to support a smooth transition between IPv4 and IPv6. However, of course, we would always recommend the efficient use of IP addresses."

The issue of "customer demand" is an interesting one that needs to be explored because, generally speaking, few will feel a need to request IPv6 until IPv4 is no longer available. However, ISPs must still be ready for when that inevitable day comes, which could be sooner than expected; if you believe the NRO. Some even suggest that having to request IPv6 in the first place is almost sign of failure because it should be there regardless.

The IPv6 support issues will have less of an impact upon businesses because IPv6 capable hardware is already available. By contrast the vast majority of consumers would have no reason to request IPv6 as they never regarded it as a "feature". It's just a seamless part of the internet, one they never have to see and probably do not even know exists. Nobody should have to "demand" that their shiny new car comes with wheels; you expect it to work, much like IPv6 Readiness.

Indeed if ISPs do their job right than the transition from one platform to the other should remain relatively seamless. If any problems do occur then it will only affect those with the very oldest hardware and software. In either case it looks like we won't have to wait too long before finding out whether or not ISPs are prepared.
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asa logoVM
Posted: 4 February, 2011 - 1:36 PM
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Are virgin media superhub support IPv6 ?
asa logoMarkJ
Posted: 4 February, 2011 - 1:38 PM
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Their new D3 routers should indeed support it, but the old ones do not.
asa logoHermes
Posted: 4 February, 2011 - 9:00 PM
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Good on them to call a hold to the sensationalist nonsense spouted by the Vint Cerfs and the tabloid muppets of this world on IPv6. Yes, it'll be sorted - but stop crapping on like it's Y2K ... and surely the media learnt the lessons from that? Business is too important and lucrative to treat such issues with disdain!


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asa logoChris Slater-Walker
Posted: 5 February, 2011 - 1:42 PM
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Couple of things:
1. There will come a time when a new web site or other Internet-based service will not be able to get an IPv4 address, only IPv6. When that happens, only users with IPv6 capability will be able to use that service.
2. There is still a lot of allocated but unused IPv4 address space. I have not yet seen a clear indication of what will happen to all that space. I suggest that it will become a traded commodity.
asa logoRoyster-Doyster
Posted: 5 February, 2011 - 9:54 PM
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I sort of agree with this, the world is not going to end and we could see a couple of years before stocks really dwindle.

My major gripe is with the statement 'we have yet to see real customer demand for IPv6' - since when do customers request a protocol????

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asa logoStuart
Posted: 7 February, 2011 - 5:14 PM
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Alot of online systems are now starting to use IPv6 as well as IPv4 in many cases togther, I noticed nominet now use IPv6 on DNS as for running out of IPv4 this is less than a few years away, theres also alot of IPv4 that are not in use on verious subnets that are wasted i.e. /8 rule that data centres use 8ips where you can use Vlan's would free up vast amount's of IPv4 addresses I currently have /16 allocated to my home office and a further few thousand to my business I audit all my IPv4 closely the reasons for being reguested.

Like deploying a server on the internet with 5 ip's is not any longer my standard in the UK as 1 is ok with 1 extra at no charge subject to justification and more at further justification these are randomly checked and at the end of the day some businesses out there are chargeing anything from 50p - £5 per month per unique IP address

IPv6 is very welcome
asa logoMario
Posted: 19 February, 2012 - 3:24 PM
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Yeah, if this goes down, you will see some kind of tohlnecogy come out that will blur out the IP address Instead of sending in your real IP, it will parse it and send in a scrambled, random IP. I'm sure a device like that is in the works, if it doesn't exist already.Very good point about the wi-fi Who knows if anyone is hacking my connection, even though it is secured, and downloading movies or other illicit material. Interesting stuff.
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