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By: MarkJ - 21 January, 2012 (7:46 AM) - Score: 2103 - Fixed Line Broadband, Mobile Broadband
europe map digital agendauk network cableThe France-based La Quadrature du Net, a civil society group that promotes online rights and freedoms, has claimed that broadband ISPs and Mobile Broadband operators in more than 14 EU Member States are engaging in "illegitimate restrictions" of their customers' Internet access and damaging Net Neutrality (the principal of treating all internet traffic as equal).

The "evidence", which has been submitted to European regulators for further investigation, was gathered by their RespectMyNet.eu website. The site allows people to submit reports about whether or not their ISP is imposing tough restrictions upon internet traffic.

Apparently this reveals how ISPs that account for the majority of the EU population have been found to violate "their users' freedom of communication by blocking or throttling specific content, applications or services available on the Internet".

Jérémie Zimmermann, Spokesperson for La Quadrature du Net, warned:

"Thanks to RespectMyNet, citizens act as the watchdogs of Internet access providers. Collected data leaves Commissioner Neelie Kroes with no choice but to acknowledge that freedom of expression, privacy, innovation and competition are all being hampered by operators' practices.

With such evidence on the table, If Neelie Kroes still refuses to propose legislative action on Net neutrality, we'll know for sure that she is working for telecoms operators, and not for citizens' general interest. Citizens must continue to report and confirm cases to RespecMyNet."

The site itself includes a number of complaints against UK providers, especially mobile operators, many of which are said to block and or throttle VoIP (e.g. Skype) and P2P (e.g. BitTorrent) traffic. However, most of the UK reports come from individuals and have not been confirmed, although many providers are known to impose such restrictions.

At present both the EU and UK have, due to a lack of supporting evidence, chosen to adopt a "wait and see" approach on enforcement. Both want ISPs to ensure that any restrictions are made clearly visible to consumers. Providers have also been warned to ensure that consumers are still given access to all "legal content [and] service[s]" (here and here).

It should be said that most ISPs employ Traffic Management or Traffic Shaping as a perfectly acceptable means to balance the performance of their networks, which allows the majority of customers to avoid being unfairly affected by a minority of heavy users.

This is often done by restricting internet traffic (speed) to busy services (e.g. P2P) or more generally at peak times of day. ISPs often view measures like this as preferable to either raising prices or being more realistic about their usage restrictions.

Crucially consumer broadband is a shared "best efforts" service and ISPs do not provide dedicated bandwidth to home users. But absolute blocks or restrictions that throttle a service to the point of being practically unusable should still be questioned.

It will be interesting to see whether or not La Quadrature du Net's evidence has any tangible impact upon EU rules and regulations. Meanwhile the issue is still being debated and some political quarters have proposed tougher rules to prevent abuses (here).
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asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 21 January, 2012 - 9:25 PM
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This might be an issue in France (?), hardly so here given the plethora of service providers with differing approaches to throttling, traffic management, shaping etc.

"you pays your money and takes your choice"!
asa logoDeduction
Posted: 22 January, 2012 - 12:22 AM
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Id say it is an issue here with regular complaints about ISPs traffic managing, throttling and worse.
asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 22 January, 2012 - 9:29 AM
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Yes, but plenty of choice so not difficult to change to an ISP that doesn't do whatever someone finds troublesome.
asa logoDeduction
Posted: 22 January, 2012 - 5:15 PM
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There is plenty of choice abroad also, choice doesnt enter the equation, the story makes it clear this is about Net Neutrality.

Traffic Management or Traffic Shaping is perfectly OK if done right. An ISP that intentionally blocks a certain type of traffic or throttles it down to stupid single or double Kbps levels are not using it in an acceptable fashion.
asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 23 January, 2012 - 12:15 PM
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@Deduction
Like I said, plenty of choice so not difficult to change to an ISP that doesn't do whatever someone finds troublesome.
asa logoJackson
Posted: 27 January, 2012 - 2:21 AM
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And like i said that isnt the point. Or anything to do with the story, as usual you are off topic.
asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 27 January, 2012 - 5:30 PM
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@"Jackson"
Curious use of "as I said" given the only previous poster was "Deduction". How odd!
asa logoDeduction
Posted: 28 January, 2012 - 12:26 PM
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I imagine his prior comments were removed. Though they do seem to sum you up nicely...

When you use the New_Londoner nick, try to remember the _ (underscore) in your ID in future. How "odd" it vanishes now and then!!!!!!!!!.
asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 29 January, 2012 - 8:32 PM
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@Deduction
No doubt you are right about previous posts by him(?)/you having been removed.
asa logoDeduction
Posted: 30 January, 2012 - 1:10 AM
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My posts get removed because like a child you go crying to staff when you can not win an argument. Why his were removed i have no idea and don't really care.
asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 30 January, 2012 - 7:57 AM
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@Deduction
The only time I have complained is when repeated personal abuse has been involved. Easy to avoid the complaint by avoiding the abuse.
asa logoDeduction
Posted: 30 January, 2012 - 5:46 PM
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The news items are for commenting on the news item rather than picking on individuals and arguing with as you do in every news item. Perhaps you should report your own abuse of the news system rather than concentrating on others. Its also funny ive seen comments removed which were not aimed at you (or rather your New_Londoner) nick.

Its plainly obviously you post with multiple IDs, and plainly obvious you in some manner have ties to BT. As a famous man once said You have all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire. Or my short version... Hypocrite.
asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 30 January, 2012 - 8:20 PM
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@Deduction
I presume your comments are intentional irony given your own habit of commenting on others' comments?
asa logoDeduction
Posted: 31 January, 2012 - 1:08 AM
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Careful what you claim, because i guarantee i can provide evidence of you picking on my comments and others first far more often than i have. You start it i finish it.

One look back over the previous month will quickly show on numerous occasions how i and others have commented on the news item itself and then you wade in wanting an argument with an individual rather than commenting on the news item. (ive counted up the instances, and are ready to defend myself against anymore of your BS complaints).

Watch your accusations. They may bite you in the end.

The difference between you and me is i havent been petty enough to cry like a baby when you break news item rules thus far. Mainly because i can defend myself. Those that need assistance to win their fights are often the wimps.....

Speaking of which please continue.
asa logoNew Londoner
Posted: 31 January, 2012 - 4:51 AM
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@Deduction
Like I said, irony indeed.

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