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Secondly, we’ve tried to list routers that also include an ADSL / ADSL2+ modem (standard copper broadband) because VDSL/VDSL2 is still young and you never know when having the ability to connect via the old system might come in handy again.

Finally, make sure you’ve got the correct VDSL router settings for your ISP BEFORE you install the device because most will usually ask for them during the setup routine (e.g. VDSL settings for BTInfinity).

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Technicolor (Thomson) TG589vn v3

Cost (Est.): £60
Wi-Fi Type: 802.11n (2.4GHz) – 300Mbps claimed
Ports: WAN RJ-11, 4 x 100Mbps LAN, USB 2.0 (plus support for 3G dongles)
IPv6 Ready: Yes
ADSL2+ Support: Yes
VDSL2+ Support: Yes (up to Profile 17a) + G.Vector and G.INP support

The TG589vn v3 is by far the cheapest VDSL/ADSL combo router we have listed here, which is largely down to its lack of Gigabit Ethernet ports or 5GHz WiFi. On the other hand it supports all of the latest VDSL standards, IPv6 and looks like a truly lovely piece of kit (style). Just remember that if you buy a budget model then you’re going to get budget performance but this is still very impressive for the money.

NOTE: If this isn’t enough then there’s also a premium TG789Vn model that adds Gigabit Ethernet ports and some other extras, although it costs nearly twice as much (£110).

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DrayTek Vigor 2760n (2860)

Cost (Est.): £140
Wi-Fi Type: 802.11n (2.4GHz) – 300Mbps claimed
Ports: WAN RJ-11, 4 x 1000Mbps LAN, USB 2.0 (plus support for 3G and 4G dongles)
IPv6 Ready: Yes
ADSL2+ Support: Yes
VDSL2+ Support: Yes (up to Profile 30a)

The Vigor 2760n, which is designed for home users (a more advanced 2860 model is also available with 5GHz wifi), looks quite expensive next to the cheaper Technicolor/Thomson router above and isn’t as stylish but there are a few key differences. Firstly, DrayTek are one of our favourite brands and have a good reputation for quality. The router also supports Gigabit Ethernet on all its ports, which means that the on-board chipset will be fast and capable. On top of that it also supports VDSL’s 30a profile (the UK currently uses 17a), which is handy if BT ever decides to upgrade.

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Billion 8200N

Cost (Est.): £100
Wi-Fi Type: 802.11n (2.4GHz) – 300Mbps claimed
Ports: WAN RJ-11, 4 x 100Mbps LAN
IPv6 Ready: No
ADSL2+ Support: No
VDSL2+ Support: Yes (up to Profile 30a)

The quality of the router that you get for £100 is somewhat of a mixed bag next to the others. Crucially it doesn’t support ADSL2+, IPv6, USB and there aren’t even any Gigabit Ethernet ports. It does however include Profile 30a support for VDSL lines but on the other hand we think it looks a bit retro and should be a lot cheaper for what you get.

Past experiences have also made us dislike Billion due to performance woes and other annoyances, although so far we haven’t heard of too many gripes about this one.

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FRITZ!Box 7390

Cost (Est.): £200
Wi-Fi Type: 802.11n (2.4GHz and 5GHz) – 600Mbps claimed
Ports: WAN RJ-11, 4 x 1000Mbps LAN, 2 x USB 2.0 (plus support for 3G dongles), 2 x Phone Ports, 1 x ISDN Port
IPv6 Ready: Yes
ADSL2+ Support: Yes
VDSL2+ Support: Yes (up to Profile 30a) + G.Vector (FRITZ!OS 6.0 Firmware)

I think we’ll just nickname this little puppy “THE BEST” because it’s an absolute monster in terms of performance and features.. oh so many features. As well as the best bits of all the above routers (Gigabit Ethernet ports, IPv6 etc.) it also supports the latest 5GHz WiFi standard at up to 600Mbps speeds (much faster over shorter distances), VoIP, VPN, can handle two analogue lines and an ISDN line, acts as a DECT base station, doubles up on USB ports and even offers 512MB of integrated network storage.

Suffice to say the FRITZ!Box is extremely fast, while the User Interface (UI) remains smooth and clear; although you’ll need to be an advanced user to get the most out of it. Broadly speaking this is a top dog piece of hardware and it’s definitely recommended for experienced users with access to a fast fixed line connection and very deep pockets.

NOTE: If a 7390 is too much router for you then the FRITZ!Box 3390 (£130) is another option, with faster wifi, but you do sacrifice some of the more advanced voice / DECT features.

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Asus DSL-N66U N900

Cost (Est.): £130
Wi-Fi Type: 802.11n (2.4GHz and 5GHz) – 900Mbps claimed
Ports: RJ-11, WAN 1000Mbps, 4 x 1000Mbps LAN, 2 x USB 2.0 (plus support for 3G and 4G dongles)
IPv6 Ready: Yes
ADSL2+ Support: Yes
VDSL2+ Support: Yes (up to Profile 30a)

Now this is an interesting router as not only does it support all of the best primary features, including being the only one here to offer ultrafast 802.11n wifi support, but it also houses dual CPUs (processors) that split the workload for your wired and wireless networks. As a result it’s extremely fast and the fact that it looks reasonably stylish doesn’t hurt, not to mention having an attractive User Interface (UI).

On the other hand we’ve seen some reports of slower performance on older ADSL2+ lines and a few people have complained about connection problems with the wifi.

Conclusion

Generally speaking most integrated VDSL/ADSL routers tend to offer good specifications and a few, such as the TG589vn v3, are now pushing down into the mass market affordability bracket. So it boils down to this, if you’re on a budget then the TG589vn v3 is best but if you’re more of an advanced and wealthy user with a hunger for features then it’s hard to put a foot wrong with the FRITZ!Box.

But for everybody else we’d say it’s a toss-up between the good reputation and price/feature balance of DrayTek’s 2760n or Asus’s cutting edge but unrefined DSL-N66U N900. Given the choice, the slightly lower price of the Asus combined with its fast wifi support and dual CPU’s would probably tempt us just that little bit more, although we have less experience of its ADSL/VDSL performance and would rather pay extra for the DrayTek’s familiar quality (though you need the 2860 for 5GHz wifi). On the other hand the FRITZ!Box 3390 is cheap enough to be of equal interest.

The odd one out is of course Billion, which suffers due to a weak feature set and the fact that the TG589vn v3 is capable of a whole lot more for significantly less. In closing it should be said that new VDSL routers are coming out all the time and thus more options will soon follow.

Meanwhile the FTTC standard itself is also expected to get a performance boost from Vectoring technology in 2014. But so far the only router that appears to tout clear support for G.vector is the cheapest TG589vn, although it might still be hidden somewhere else on the others (we did look) and the FRITZ!Box recently got it via the very latest firmware.

IMPORTANT: Since writing this article we have also published a second piece, which effectively represents an update to the above one and looks at a new batch of FTTC routers for the coming year of 2015 – Broadband Router Options for UK Superfast FTTC ISPs – 2015 UPDATE. Both articles are best read together as the above 2014 hardware is still relevant.

UPDATE 7th January 2014

Correction the Asus does not support 802.11ac wifi.

UPDATE 30th January 2014

The new FRITZ!Box 7490, which has just been released, also adds 802.11ac wifi support at up to 1.3Gbps.

UPDATE 30th December 2014

Added a link for the 2015 update article to this one – Broadband Router Options for UK Superfast FTTC ISPs – 2015 UPDATE.

UPDATE 11th January 2016

Added a link for the 2016 update – 2016 UPDATE – VDSL Router Options for UK FTTC “Fibre Broadband” ISPs.

UPDATE 11th June 2018:

Added a link for the 2018 update – 2018 Update – VDSL Router Choices for UK FTTC Fibre Broadband ISPs.

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  1. Avatar MikeW

    There’s one extra aspect to beware of, especially now that FTTC services open up IPTV services such as BT Vision… and that is support for the multicast video.

    I’ve seen limitations mentioned on the BT forum, which seem to restrict the choice of router; presumably the same restrictions appear for combined router/modems.

  2. Avatar Phil

    Link here to buy genuine BT Home Hub 5 for £129.00 including free shipping from BT shop: http://www.shop.bt.com/products/bt-home-hub-5-90RY.html

    Also can purchase BT Dual-band AC Wireless USB Dongle for £34.99 including free shipping from BT shop: http://www.shop.bt.com/products/bt-dual-band-ac-wireless-usb-dongle-90RZ.html

  3. Avatar Bob2002

    I’m not too bothered at the moment by having a separate VDSL modem and router, but a combo would make it much easier(I presume) to access stats if my line started playing up. My modem is ECI(difficult to hack the last time I checked) but I also have an unlocked HG612 in case I ever need line stats.

  4. Avatar dragon

    Now we need a source of VDSL modems for those of us who don’t want an all in one unit, since BT will probably stop supplying the VDSL modems.

    • At present Openreach will continue to offer its VDSL Modems as an option to ISPs and they’ve no current plans to change that approach, although that could always change in the more distant future.

      But it’s worth remembering that even Openreach’s modems are still closer to being routers than pure modems, so if you want to keep such things separate then you could set a second VDSL-only router to act as a modem and then link that to your router. I don’t know why you’d want to do that but it’s an option.

    • Avatar dragon

      @Mark the problem is although Openreach might offer the option to the ISP it doesn’t necessarily mean the ISP will give the end user the choice.

      There are several routers out there that have an Ethernet based interface therefore a separate VDSL modem is required, The devices you list are generally SOHO routers and fine for most people but some of us like to have devices that are a bit more flexible in terms of the configuration capabilities they have.

      E.g the UBNT edgerouter, Mikrotik routerboards, PfSense and all the other various linux/BSD based firewalls you can get thesedays. They give you much more configuration capability than your average soho AIO unit

      As you quite rightly point out the Units BTO supply are routers that have been placed in modem only/bridge mode. But it’s also worth noting a lot of all in One units don’t allow this so basically there needs to be a basic low cost Modem/Router with the ability to turn the Router bit off, It doesn’t even need Wi-FI.etc as that wouldn’t be used in this scenario.

  5. Avatar adslmax

    The DSL-N66U N900 looks very interesting. Has anyone tested the VDSL2 performance?

    • Avatar J Carrington

      Yes, I have been using this router. Sadly this is still a work-in-progress, just like the newer Asus routers (E.g. AC68U). I installed this VDSL router on my BT Infinity Line – at first the connection is very stable. Fast forward 5 days of uptime and WiFi disables itself, the syslog is blank and the DSL connection dies. I suspect this is a bug in the firmware, however I have decided to return it for a refund.

      I acquired the BT HomeHub 5, so now I use this as my VDSL router – WiFi speeds are far better than the Asus DSL-N66U. OK, you don’t get the advanced features on the HomeHub, but I would rather have a reliable connection. So in conclusion, I have given up with third party routers as the HH5 is very respectable! I agree with the recent review of it > http://www.trustedreviews.com/bt-home-hub-5_Peripheral_review

    • Avatar Chris Philpot

      Yes I’ve tested and the verdict is don’t waste your money on the asus dsl n66u. Is extremely unstable, full of bugs and best of all asus support guys are about as helpful as a chocolate fire guard. I returned mine for a full refund.

    • Avatar PC

      I have been using this for about a month and very seems fine. However, the first thing I did was to update the firmware (1.0.7, so it looks like the bugs have been ironed out. I am with zen and am getting average of 75/18 with 14ms ping.

  6. Avatar Max

    I find the comments about Billion routers being problematic very odd. The Billion 7800N is regarded as one of the best routers available for slower ADSL lines, it’s uptime is practically unparalleled. I went from 2 or 3 disconnects a day on my 2Mbps line using a Netgear router/modem to roughly 110days before the first disconnect once I got the 7800n. Its ability to let you change the SNR is also fantastic, as well as frequent firmware updates.

    • Our own experience of that particular router, which incidentally isn’t the one we mentioned above, are rather different. I had a Billion 7800 for a brief period and it struggled to handle the low noise margins on our line and kept dropping the connection.

      I’m not sure if they ever fixed that but the biggest issue for us was the poor wifi, which was sporadic and often seemed to stop working. A full reset was required to fix it and we’ve had similar problems with another Billion model; this wasn’t resolved after a replacement or firmware update.

      So if you go through three bits of kit from the same company over a period of years and experience similar problems then you begin lose a bit of faith. No problems in these areas with our current DrayTek and TP-Link kit though.

  7. Avatar Phil

    J Carrington – can you tell me if this BT Home Hub 5 got full line stats access on the web feature that showing sync rate, noise margin etc. I heard BT had locked it and cannot access line stats on this router?

  8. Avatar Starman

    Phil, a quick copy and paste from the “Helpdesk” section on the HH5 –

    ====
    1. Product name: BT Home Hub
    2. Serial number:
    3. Firmware version: Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated 27/12/13
    4. Board version: BT Hub 5A
    5. VDSL uptime: 5 days, 11:47:39
    6. Data rate: 14424 / 58897
    7. Maximum data rate: 17302 / 69297
    8. Noise margin: 5.8 / 6.2
    9. Line attenuation: 0.0 / 17.6
    10. Signal attenuation: 0.0 / 17.8
    11. Data sent/received: 192.4 MB / 3.8 GB
    12. Broadband username: bthomehub@btbroadband.com
    13. BT Wi-fi: Yes
    ====

    • Avatar Phil

      That’s pretty good. I was surprise it’s look like unlocked BT HH5, as I don’t know why other say it locked and you cannot see any sync line rate.

  9. Avatar Starman

    The blank upload line and signal attenuation has been a bug since the close testing on the modem and they are aware of it. Also it doesn’t accurately report data sent/receive.

  10. Avatar Phil

    I cannot decided yet as will I go for this when my FTTC is available to order:

    BT Openreach Modem with my Netgear DGND3700v2 or go for standalone all in one BT HH5?

  11. Avatar pj66300

    I have tried the ZyXEL SBG3300-N wireless/VDSL2/ADSL2+ router and that works fine on the PlusNet version of what is in effect BT Infinity. It locks up at 80Mb/s down and 20Mb/s up, which is the same as the Draytek 2760Vn, which I also own. I found the Zyxel a bit easier to set up but it doesn’t have quite such comprehensive bandwidth management facilities on the LAN side. I note that the Zyxel also claims to support vectoring but have no direct experience of this as yet, as it is not implemented on the ISP’s modem. The Zyxel can be found for a bit less than the Draytek.

    • Avatar cyclope

      “PlusNet version of what is in effect BT Infinity” No it’s VDSL2 not infinity, BT infinity is just a brand name for the Openreach VDSL2 product just as Fibre is used in bb adds ,FTTC isnt true fibre where as FTTH is Also the 80/20 are max Sync rates and are capped by Openreach There’s a couple of mis conceptions sorted out for the new year

    • Avatar pj66300

      I am well aware that BT Infinity is just a product name and fully understand that the service of VDSL2 is provided via a FTTC connection. However the PlusNet service is the wholesale BT Infinity product in terms of its operation, after all PlusNet is a wholly owned subsidiary of BT, although it has an independent support and sales operation. VDSL2 technology is in reality an upper frequency extension to ADSL2 using additional carriers at higher frequencies, hence it will only work well over short copper pairs, as the line attenuation increases with carrier frequency. At my UK location there is probably only about 200m cable between my modem and the street Cab. hence the speed is limited by the setting of the modem in the street Cab. and almost certainly not by my modem.

  12. Avatar stoatwblr

    It’s always been possible to use a privately owned VDSL2 box on a FTTC connection and the first thing I did after the BT engineer left was to plug my Fritzbox directly in. It works like a charm and can easily transfer ungodly amounts of data each month (that’s helped by being less than 100 metres from the cabinet).

    The Fritz really is the Muttz Nutz. Expensive if you think of it as a router, but if you think of it as a router + answering machine/fax/pabx/cordless base/call filtering system + VoiP system + NAS + print server + home automation controller then it’s a lot cheaper than the seperate components.

    FWIW: using Asus kit: When it works it’s good, but my experience of Asus over the years has been poor when things don’t work. Asus have a tendency to run away and hide when things get difficult (they even shut down customer forums a decade ago because too many people were complaining about buggy video cards). Personally I’d stay well away until all the bugs are ironed out.

  13. Avatar cyclope

    I certainly would’nt be paying £100+ for a BT hub v5 complete with backdoor

    I currently use the BT openreach modem and a Billion 7800 wired router without issues,get the full sync rates 80/20 and get around 73-74mbps & 19.5mbps actual throughput

  14. Avatar Neil McRae

    Make sure you buy a router that has G.Vector support or a path to it. If you don’t do this I would expect you will have to buy another router at sometime in the future.

    cyclope – what are you on about with a back door ?

    Neil.

  15. Avatar X66yh

    I guess Cyclope is suggesting that the BT HH5 has some special software backdoor entrance for BT to muck about with it and change its settings (or worse!)without the user knowing. (or the CIA/FBI/NSA/GCHQ/MI5/MI6 etc)

    I presume he has disabled “BTagent” service which runs on the Openreach modem as exactly what this does is uncertain and could equally be a backdoor of some form.

  16. Avatar CrazyLazy

    Of the bunch id have the Asus, seems to be the best in terms of features/price.

    If money was no object the Fritzbox. Would not touch the Billion mentioned (feature set is too dated).

    Dreytek is nice but overpriced with only 300Mb wireless.

    As for the BT Homehub 5 like all homehubs there is no serious configuration you can do to it. Can not even change MAC address or DNS on homehubs. Would AVOID it like the plague at £120. At that price you can get gear infinitely more configurable.

  17. Avatar Max

    There is some confusion reported on the FRITZ!Box 3390 – this is the faster router, faster routing and faster wifi with simultaneous dual band 450×450 wifi, with the same feautures as the 7390 less the integrated voice services and DECT.

  18. Avatar J Carrington

    Correction needed to the author’s comment on Asus DSL-N66U N900. It does not support AC wireless – specs for wireless:-

    802.11a : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54Mbps
    802.11b : 1, 2, 5.5, 11Mbps
    802.11g : 6,9,12,18,24,36,48,54Mbps
    802.11n : up to 450Mbps

  19. Avatar infunity

    Why oh why is it so damn difficult to find a VDSL2 modem router that also features 802.11ac?!

    Sometimes technology moves forward so slowly.

    • It’s likely to be a combination of the usual factors. The 802.11ac standard is still fairly new (most of the early routers used the draft spec but many waited until the final one was ready) and that means that early chips are also more expensive and require a bit of extra R&D.

      On the flip side there hasn’t been much demand for VDSL routers, at least not in the UK where Openreach has tended to include its own modem with new installs and that’s only just become optional. So we are at the start of a change and right now only a few are ready but the number will grow and prices will fall.

  20. Avatar Felix

    I have the TG589vn v3 provided by UTV Internet (eircom lines, Ireland) and it’s an absolute pain. I’ve been trying to bridge it with Billion 7800dxl over the last few days with absolutely no luck. I even tried to connect via my laptop (win dial in PPPoE) after putting my TG589vn into bridge mode with dhcp both on and off. Has anyone here encountered similar issues? I tried billion forum but it’s not the most lively place for answers. Another problem is everytime I put in in bridge mode and then go back to ‘routed’ mode I can’t get the connection. Only after I perform a factory reset (pin at the back for 30s) and then enter my PPPoE username and password I get it back online but it still requires me to go into broadband connection and disconnect it manually, input the username/password again and press connect. Only then it connects. I’m so sick of the situation that I’m considering returning my BiPAC 7800dxl back and investing that money into a proper replacement vdsl router.

  21. Avatar AP

    Having just had BT infinity 2 installed, I had to specifically ask the openreach engineer for the openreach modem as it was just going to install the service with the BT HH5 and its in-build vdsl modem. Thankfully I had read of the port forwarding issues with the BT HH5 and said I didn’t want to use the BT HH5 so he went back to his van and got the openreach modem.

  22. Avatar jpd

    hi best all in 1 box for gaming?

  23. I’ve tried 4 of the VDSL2 routers available.

    Firstly billion 8200 on Sky, rock solid 80/20 profile absolutely no drop-outs on sync, shame about the limited 100meg lan ports. Constant 75 meg down and 18 up.

    Also tried Draytec 2760n on sky, absolute pile of pants. User interface dreadfully slow, fell over all the time, sent back for refund. Dratyec support very helpfull though.

    Asus dsl-n66u when I swapped to Plusnet, sync rate fine but upnp did not work and router would just not play ball with port forwarding. Sent back after absolutly no help with support.

    Must hand it to Jerry for the Fritzbox 3390. Solid performance, great user interface and stats pages. Easy to set up and rock solid stability. Only criticism is the VPN section, don’t like using the Fritz software for something that should be easy to use. Also support G.vectoring and 30mHz profiles when rolled out by Openreach.

  24. Avatar cyclope

    @pj66300 Bt infinty is what BT retail market it as it’s a BT retail band name,
    For BT openreach’s VDSL2 product( FTTC )
    When other ISP’s including Plusnet (A retail consumer brand owned by BT) they do not place an order for infinity , because it’s a brand name for bt ‘s retail marketing puposes outside that it doesnt exist, just as they use the word fibre which is misleading to those who aren’t in the know ,

    @Neil McRae,The BT agent, as someone else pointed out, the HH5 has this built in, and one of it’s uses is to update firmware remotely, but this has been causing problems of the untit consantly rebooting its self, and no doubt DLM will bre working overtime on those connections as a result,But it could be also exploited because it’s there and iirc on the hh5 it can’t be disabled by the EU!!

  25. Avatar stoat

    A warning to those considering the Fritz 7390:

    The Fritz can get _very_ sluggish to respond if you’re running lots of streams through it or take it near 80Mb/s download. This does start interfering with its PBX functions

    They also have a tendency to crash if running “too many” connections.

    AVM try to blame this on PtP software but the stark reality is that my decade-old netgear box handled more active streams than the Fritz does.

    Their idea of “user support” is questionable at times too. If it gets “too hard” expect them to stop responding to queries

    (They’re hardly alone among german companies pulling this stunt. Suse adopted the hedgehog position over broken software and even refused to respond to Novell (who own them) when we escalated to head office)

    No idea if the 7490 is any better performance-wise.

    OTOH Fritzes are brilliant when not pushed to their limits. As a ADSL unit it was superb, but full speed VDSL2 clearly pushes the 7390 to the ragged edge of oblivion.

  26. You guys should take a look at the ZTE H168N, any interest please email graeme(at)gen-xit.co.uk

    Graeme

  27. Avatar cyclope

    What about the new Billion 8800NL ADSL /VDSL Modem/Router ? http://www.billion.uk.com/product/vdsl/8800NL.htm

  28. Avatar stoat

    If you run P2P (ie: bit torrent), it’s fairly easy to bring a Fritz to its knees. They can’t seem to handle more than about 400 connections before things go _very_ soggy, no matter how fast the link is – I was able to cause this on both ADSL and VDSL.

    I’d be interested to know how the other boxes hold up to this kind of thing (almost all my BT is peering of linux distros, they’re a very popular item and it’s useful for network connection testing.)

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