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Tuesday, October 15th, 2019 (1:18 pm) - Score 3,115
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Low cost broadband ISP TalkTalk is facing the prospect of a “landmark” legal case by one of its former Programme Directors, Rebecca Burke, who is crowd-funding to bring an equal pay claim against them after she was allegedly paid “40% less salary and 50% less bonus” than three other male colleges that were “in my team doing the same job.”

Rebecca, who was part of the team that helped the ISP to recover from a devastating cyber-attack in 2015, has already personally funded a tribunal in December 2018, but the case was reportedly postponed after a rare intervention by her barrister, Naomi Cunningham, who “asked the tribunal panel to stand down on the grounds that it was hostile to Rebecca’s case.”

In an address to the tribunal, Ms Cunningham said: “No claimant in an equal pay case listening to the exchanges could be expected to feel any confidence that any part of her claim would get a fair hearing.” The tribunal, chaired by Judge Graeme Hodgson, adjourned for several days to consider the request before declining to step down, which led to the case being rescheduled.

The final hearing dates have now been set, the public hearing will run from 27th January 2020 until 7th February 2020, and Rebecca is thus seeking funding to support her on-going case. “I need to raise my initial target of £30,000, and then work towards £40,000 by 12th November to present this case before tribunal,” said Rebecca.

Rebecca Burke said:

“In May 2017 I was shocked to discover that I had been singled out for redundancy. The suspicious circumstances led me through a slow and painful appeals process that eventually exposed the fact that TalkTalk had been paying me 40% less salary and 50% less bonus than the 3 other male Programme Directors that were in my team doing the same job.

Myself and my family have endured the years of financial and emotional stress in this fight for justice against a giant corporation. I have sacrificed my career, sanity and financial stability because I want to help build a fairer future for our young women and girls by holding our UK businesses to account when they break the equal pay laws that women fought so hard for 50 years ago.

This experience has opened my eyes to the gender discrimination and equal pay issues that women and girls are facing everywhere, everyday. I’m sharing this story with you so that you can join me in the fight for equal pay. This case is one of the first unfair dismissal and ‘like work’ equal pay cases of its kind in the UK, and so will create valuable case law to simplify equal pay cases in the future.”

A quick look at the ISP’s most recent Gender Pay statistics (here) reveals that women earn 82p for every £1 that men earn when comparing median hourly wages (their median hourly wage is 17.5% lower than men’s or 19.1% lower when using a “mean” average).

Women were also found to earn 77p for every £1 that men earn when comparing median bonus pay (their median bonus pay is 23.3% lower than men’s or 30.7% lower when using a “mean” average). Naturally TalkTalk are not happy.

A TalkTalk spokesperson said:

“We strongly refute these claims and we do not tolerate gender discrimination of any sort, including with regards to pay. This is an on-going case so we cannot comment any further, however we’re committed to treating all our employees fairly and we are confident there is no disparity in pay between genders.”

We understand that Rebecca was paid £110,000 a year, although it was reported last year that she was let go after 15 months in her job.

UPDATE 3:30pm

Added a comment from TalkTalk above.

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  1. Avatar beany

    Unless she plans of sharing her wealth with those that donate and of course if she wins via her “crowd funding” id like to know where she stands on her “equality” then.

    Or perhaps she is hoping for a payout in the hundreds of thousands or more and will kindly just refund whatever was donated, rather than equally divvy up the financial win “equally”.

    Short version go away you SJW.

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      I’m afraid yours is just the sort of attitude she’s fighting. She has publicly stated that any award she received will be donated to the Fawcett Society and Time’s Up, so she does not stand to benefit financially from her case.
      You should judge on the facts and not on your biased assumptions.
      I don’t have the full facts to know whether she will (or should) win her case, but I respect her reasons for bringing it to a tribunal.

    • Avatar beany

      “I’m afraid yours is just the sort of attitude she’s fighting.”

      Are you having a laugh…
      1) Shes accusing a company of inequality when during the time she worked there the CEO (Dido Harding) was a woman

      2) Shes asking for crowd funding which i assume means taking donations from both men and woman.

      3) If she actually cared about working equality her so called “beneficiaries” of any pay out would not be those just focused on “woman” getting “equal” pay. There are plenty of jobs where the same sex get paid differently, not to mention the pay gap can vary far more than hers did depending on just your age…
      https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
      What about all the poor under 25’s in this country of BOTH sexes just for starters huh?

      4) Where does her morals stand on the latest and even more stupid trend where people do not ‘identify’ as one gender or the other???

      She is bitter she lost her job nothing more. Im all in favour of people being treated equal, but i live in a world where i know what equal actually is…

      I would not go prattling on about how hard done by i am by the opposite sex when i worked for a company with a member of the same sex at the top.

      Nor would i then expect the opposite sex in some form or capacity to give me money if i thought i was being paid so unfairly compared to them or lost my job over my gender whilst those of the other sex kept theirs.

      Its utter hypocrisy. People like this do not want ‘equality’ they want a gender roll reversal of how THEY see things currently are.

      Actual equality, how about considering this to answer does she want equality…

      Would she shout and scream UNFAIR, PAY THEM THE SAME, if she started a new job and a MAN in the same roll was getting less then her, some how i doubt it based on her choices of where she wants money from her justice warrior feminist case to go… PATHETIC!

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      Oh dear. You are just making biased assumptions again.

    • Avatar beany

      Assumption??/ Er NO

      1) Was Dido Harding a woman, and was she her CEO? How is a CEO a woman in a male gender bias organisation???

      2) Can both men and woman donate to her crowd funding?

      3) Do both Male and Females under 25 get paid less than those over?

      4) Where does she stand on a Man that identifies as a woman or vice versa? Should they get more money, less money, or the same as they currently get?

      5) Do you believe she shout and scream UNFAIR, PAY THEM THE SAME, if she started a new job and a MAN in the same roll was getting less then her? Would she march in protest for her fellow man being paid less as she has for her fellow woman and show how equal she wants things?

      6) You know ‘equality’ means treating everyone the same right, not giving money to organisations that fight for ONE gender and not the others?

      All easy questions to assess her rational on “equality”. All questions she better be ready for if she takes things as high as they could potentially go in courts of the land, and all questions that will absolutely DESTROY her theories on what she thinks “equality” is.

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      Oh, this is fun.
      1) The head of state is the Queen – a woman. Does that make the UK a country where women are treated equally to men?
      2) anyone can donate, regardless of gender. Are you assuming only women would wish to donate?
      3) The minimum wage (for each age band) applies regardless of gender. Wages above minimum wage tend to be lower for women, even when they do exactly the same job as men. Personally I’d do away with the age bands as they are discriminatory, but the law as it stands does discriminate on age in a few cases.
      4) Gender should not have a bearing on the amount paid, and we have laws which say so (which is the point of her action).
      5) see 4) Do you ASSUME she wouldn’t support a man’s claim for equal pay?
      6) You have the right to choose which organisations you wish to donate to. An organisation that promotes equality for women does not discriminate against men.

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      Yes, I agree – maybe some organisation like the The Fawcett Society, which is one of the UK’s leading charities campaigning for gender equality.

    • Avatar beany

      1) Id argue Men and Woman are treated equally. Our laws are the same for both. In what way do you believe they are not equal, if it is pay such as this woman believes do you also believe there is not a single woman in any job anywhere that earns more than a man?
      2) No im assuming if she feels men having more money than woman is unfair then why would she think or expect men to give her money.
      3) The minimum wage based on age means there is INEQUALITY, neither you, nor i, nor anyone should be deeming one age group to have more of a financial contribution to wealth as a whole than another age group. Her ignoring that group thus shows she is not interested in actual equality. Actual equality would mean being the same no matter age, sex, religion or anything else. Yet she is not donating to any charity that fights for any of that. She is instead donating it all to organisation only interested in woman… Hardly a shining light of “equal”.
      4) I AGREE entirely, the trouble with genders all being treated equal though as much as i would love to see it is you can never have it. Men and woman for starters are genetically different… different = not equal. One gender will always perform certain things better than another. If you pay equally you will be discriminating one genders performance over another you will thus still have “INEQUALITY”.
      To be sexist to some (id call it realistic) If i run a company that makes clothing and a woman can use the sewing machine to sow more garments per hour than a man can, why should i pay the man the same as the woman? I would in that case want to pay the woman more as typically she would perform the job better. The same way as if i ran a building company and if the men in that could carry more building materials around the site than the woman could then the men are more productive and thus should be paid more. Paying both sexes the same in both jobs would not be “equality” because one gender in both jobs would be doing MORE than the other, and thus they deserve more. If you start paying the same then everyone will just do the MINIMUM not the MAXIMUM they can do.
      5)YES i do assume that because she says right there in her video its to SUPPORT WOMAN, not men also or both genders, or ages or any other discrimination we may or may not have in any form in society.
      6) Having an organisation that fights for ONLY one gender over another be it for woman or for men is INEQUALITY in itself, you are fighting for ONE gender to be treated different. NOT for both genders to be treated the same… That would be HUMAN rights.
      Her choices of organisation fight for the rights of WOMAN, not for the rights of Equality. You may as well give your winnings to the NSPCA and then try to argue you are trying to support poverty ridden adults. Her argument is that ridiculous.

      Now if you would like to answer my questions i originally made in kind feel free.

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      I think you have made my point better than I could by your misogynistic diatribe.

    • Avatar Sharon

      I am female and i am sorry Anothertim but i am with Beany on this.

      Who was the highest earner at TalkTalk during her time there a man or woman? If she also cared about equal pay and rights there are far more worthy organisations that fight for those things for all sexes, age groups, religions and genders than who she says she will give the money to.

      There are massive pay gaps in jobs just due to age or your choice of religion. Things like that never get a mention when people like this are on their own personal moral crusade rather than one of actual morals on civilised equality. As a woman im disgusted to say in most cases such as these its often not about wanting people to be equals to each other but pure jealousy. I am old enough to actually remember what feminism used to be and it was far from things like this.

    • Avatar beany

      “I think you have made my point better than I could by your misogynistic diatribe.”

      Huh, what??? How can i be misogynistic when i have clearly given an example where i would want to give a woman more money in employment than i would a man?

      How can i also be misogynistic when i believe a woman can not only perform better at certain employment but can be superior to men in it?

      I believe if you do a job equal you should be paid equal, if you do a job better than someone else though you should get better be you man or woman.

      If she can show she performed just as well as colleagues in the same roll then good luck to her i hope she wins, as it is though i doubt she can show that (unlikely she has a record of other peoples work performance). Also where she chooses to donate her cash, yes she has a right to pick a charity herself. Though that choice will not reflect her claims of wanting men and woman to be paid or treated equal as it is a charity biased to one gender over the other.

      Hope that clears up the simple and dictionary terms on what “equal” and “misogynistic” actually mean.

      Cheers for not bothering answering the questions also and just insulting me, where as i took the time to answer your queries… Another shining light of you “equality” theories no doubt.

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      @Sharon, it’s interesting to hear that “there are far more worthy organisations” – can you point me at some, I may want to support them.
      Actually I’d agree you are with beany – you’re also making assumptions. You are assuming that the case is about jealousy. I’d assume it was about the outrage of a situation that was perceived to be unfair (whether correctly or not) – but that’s just my assumption.
      Also, if feminism didn’t used to be about the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes, just what did it used to be?

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      I’m glad we agree that equal performance deserves equal pay. I don’t know the merits of this particular case, but that’s what tribunals are there to decide.
      BTW where did your friend Sharon go?

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      Sorry, it wasn’t Sharon’s post that has disappeared, it was the one by the poster with the pejorative tag.

    • Avatar Sharon

      You can take a look at https://www.globalgiving.org/search/
      for numerous projects around the world that work on eliminating differences we all have and working towards better rights for those less privileged in all areas of life including gender, poverty, financial, religion and more. Searching around the web i would guess finds similar things where the focus is not just on one of the sexes and their inequality in life but inequality in general.

      ‘Also, if feminism didn’t used to be about the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes, just what did it used to be?’

      That is some of what it used to be about, a movement to achieve all those things, not individuals trying to win their OWN personal case or have their OWN personal agenda. You can see where it all went wrong just on wikipedia if you wish. The 1990’s and on ward a particular time when the original principles went out the window and it became a free for all, though it started about a decade or so before that. I am approaching 50 and even at that relatively young age for someone that believes in the origins of feminism feel it has been well and truely lost.

      Nowadays so called “feminists” do not even know where they stand on things like biology, gender, culture, and politics. And as for the whole gender identity thing that beany mentions there is no consensus on that at all.

    • Avatar beany

      “I’m glad we agree that equal performance deserves equal pay. I don’t know the merits of this particular case, but that’s what tribunals are there to decide.”

      Her, or her barrister, or both have already decided the tribunal process they were having was not fair or being fair either. The judge has refused to and now she needs more money to continue her pestering. The only thing that will be fair is when she gets her own way. Another sign of her so called view on “equality” in her mind, no doubt, Equal as long as i get what i want, mentality.

    • Avatar beany

      PS…

      @sharon

      A nice choice on an example of a better organisation…
      https://www.globalgiving.org/aboutus/jobs/

      QUOTE”We are an equal opportunity employer and value diversity in all forms.
      We believe good ideas can come from anyone, anywhere, at any time. We want team members with diverse backgrounds and life experiences to help us find innovative solutions to problems. We are united in our passion to make the world a better place and we do not discriminate on the basis of race, religion, color, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, age, marital status, veteran status, or disability status.”

      As is also evident by their staff make up…
      https://www.globalgiving.org/aboutus/who-we-are/staff/

      A mix of genders, religions, races etc.

      Lets compare that to the good old Fawcett Society she and AnotherTim approve of so much…
      https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/fawcett-staff

      Oh look 1 token man, how nice of them……… EQUALITY FOR ALL LETS SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOF TOPS!

      LMFAO

    • Avatar elvis

      ”Lets compare that to the good old Fawcett Society she and AnotherTim approve of so much…
      ”Oh look 1 token man, how nice of them”

      They have solved the so called average 30% (or what ever it is supposed to be) pay gap in many industries by hiring only 10% of men. The 90% of the woman there though if they follow their organisations ethics will bring a discrimination case in 5 years time because it will emerge 10% of the time a man was still being paid. Best setup the kickstarter right now 😀

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      “The only thing that will be fair is when she gets her own way.” You are making assumptions again. It will be for the tribunal to decide on the facts. It may well be that it is fair that she wins – without the full evidence we can’t say one way or another.

    • Avatar beany

      Sets up funding page and states on it “This experience has opened my eyes to the gender discrimination…”.

      Will give winnings to organisation that favours employing woman.

      Though to be fair she does also say on the same funding page
      “I have sacrificed my career, sanity and financial stability”

      The middle of the 3 being particularly obvious. The real shame is there are plenty of people stupid enough to fall for this clap trap and think in some way giving her money will help any “gender discrimination” we have in this country.

      I have no doubt she will reach her funding goals, pimping your story to the press, and boy has she with the 3 newspaper sites her ‘story’ has appeared on nowadays with some SJW spiel thrown in will convince plenty of idiots. Well targeted spread of The times, telegraph and Daily mail to cover all levels of readership. (probably did not think The sun or similar would have enough employed readers to give her money).

    • Avatar AnotherTim

      Yet more misogynist diatribe, along with pejorative terms.

    • Avatar beany

      “You are making assumptions again. It will be for the tribunal to decide on the facts. It may well be that it is fair that she wins – without the full evidence we can’t say one way or another.”

      No i am not her Barrister stated…
      “No claimant in an equal pay case listening to the exchanges could be expected to feel any confidence that any part of her claim would get a fair hearing”

      She already feels she has not being treated fair during the process.

      “Yet more misogynist diatribe, along with pejorative terms.”

      If you are going to study a thesaurus for hours can you at least look up in the dictionary what the terms you use actually mean.

      I have already demonstrated i can not be a misogynist. As for anything that i have mentioned being pejorative, id ask which bit have i taken out of context and used a pejorative term. You do know what pejorative terms mean don’t you? I think you will find everything i have stated is factual, please point to which bit is not.

  2. Avatar Joe

    No way to judge without being there but to ask “the tribunal panel to stand down on the grounds that it was hostile to Rebecca’s case.” is a nuclear option and one has to wonder..

  3. Avatar AnotherTim

    “Oh look 1 token man, how nice of them” Again you are assuming that they discriminated against male applicants. Personally I’d make a different assumption – that very few men are interested in working to promote womens rights. They do have vacancies – would you be interested in applying?

    • Avatar beany

      No im assuming they are an organisation that claims they work for and i quote…
      “https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/about”
      “About Who we are
      The Fawcett Society is the UK’s leading membership charity campaigning for gender equality and women’s rights at work”

      The key bit there being “GENDER EQUALITY” how you can have that but only support one gender though remains a mystery.

      Though i digress lets look at their “VISION” further down the page…
      “A society in which women and girls in all their diversity are equal and truly free to fulfil their potential creating a stronger, happier, better future for us all. ”

      Better future for US ALL… In just a female or male only work place? Errr ok if you say so. What happened to the GENDER EQUALITY BIT for the future eh?

      Sounds like a case of fundamentalist to me rather than Feminism. A term you will no doubt also find assumption or discriminatory. Perhaps look it up first.


      Again you are assuming that they discriminated against male applicants.

      Oh no no no…
      Perhaps i could file for a FOI request of the charities past employee history to find out how many men, woman etc they have employed first. Im sure that will also destroy you theory. Not that they will ever hand that information over to the enemy (IE MEN).

      Then again i do not have to do that the employment history and discrimination against MALE gender is already in black and white…
      https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/Handlers/Download.ashx?IDMF=a81cc274-47e5-4bc0-856e-dbfc910dbe22
      that covers it nicely for the past 4 years who has been employed.

      Anything else you think i am “assuming”?

      You were right with one thing though when you chose to engage in this modern form of debate with me and that was your quote of…
      “Oh, this is fun.”

      Well yes it is, i seem to be able to post links to back up my claims all day…… You though apart from accuse me of assumptions, yeah… Not so much.

      Fun though, very fun indeed LOL

    • Avatar Marty

      Maybe you should get off your high horse @AnotherTim there no browney points or special gift’s or supporting so called female equality. If equality is to be achieved it should be for every gender across the board in my view. Not just the ones you think are persecuted. The way your rambling on makes you look selfish and to be honest a bit of an idiot.

      In the present people will do what try to gain advantage even at the cost of equality so deal with it because no amount of moaning or awareness will change anything for the foreseeable future.

    • Avatar Go away

      The fawcett society like any good nut job cause will also it appears have no shame in using children to drive home their doctrine.
      https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/our-history
      Those poor kids 🙁 I doubt the age group in the picture at the bottom of that page fully understand what feminism is and if they do like most young people would unlikely believe one gender should be treated better than the other which is what their webpages and its almost cult like words on some of them suggests.

      The moment any group brings children into something where the child does not fully understand what the group stands for, that group looses any credibility it ever had IMO.

  4. Avatar Jamie

    Why would anybody give money to an individual just to line there own pockets? She bitter and twisted using words like equality to make her seem like the victim.
    Equality has nothing to do with this situation
    Just another nobody using words to get what he or she want more money and greed.

    • Avatar Go away

      Yep, nothing more than another example of victim culture, trying to use the latest trends to get an outcome that it wants. Clearly does not give a damn about any type of gender suffering, only itself and winning its own personal case.

      Unlike the right to vote which some posters seem to compare this to, that was a campaign by woman for ALL woman, this is a campaign for her and only her, with the thin BS veneer of im trying to help all attached to it, to get money. Nothing more.

  5. Avatar Stephen Wakeman

    ”The key bit there being “GENDER EQUALITY” how you can have that but only support one gender though remains a mystery.”

    Aren’t you missing the point here? For there to be a fight for equality requires that there be an actual or perceived inequality. In this case, it’s pay equality for females. This is a proven and demonstrable inequality. So any movement or organisation isn’t going to “support” males, if that isn’t the group being discriminated against with said inequity. To point otherwise is silly.

    The goal is equality but you seem to misconstruing the goal with the methodology. The suffragette movement consisted predominantly of women. They were, after all, the ones with a vested interest in its goals. A movement or form of activism is not required to embody exactly that which it promotes. It would be different a different story altogether if those organisations paid women more than men for doing the same job – then you might have a point – but there is no evidence of that, so as it stands, you don’t,

    • Avatar Jonathan

      Not all professions have females being paid less than males. Teaching being the first that comes to mind. Second for some employers most of the pay gap comes from rampent discrimination against men; the NHS being the prime example. Most nurse’s being women and nurses getting paid less than doctors results in gender pay gap in favour of men. To fix it however you would need to positively discriminate for more male nurse’s, which is slightly counter intuitive.

    • Avatar Go away

      “Aren’t you missing the point here? For there to be a fight for equality requires that there be an actual or perceived inequality. In this case, it’s pay equality for females. This is a proven and demonstrable inequality. So any movement or organisation isn’t going to “support” males, if that isn’t the group being discriminated against with said inequity. To point otherwise is silly.”

      No he is not missing the point, you can not campaign for GENDER EQUALITY, yet run an organisation that spends all its time fixated on one single gender.

      If they believe in GENDER equality, then why are they not anywhere campaigning for things where a male is disadvantaged in society or where men or woman that identify as a different gender are discriminated against in society.

      “The goal is equality but you seem to misconstruing the goal with the methodology. The suffragette movement consisted predominantly of women. They were, after all, the ones with a vested interest in its goals.”

      Im not sure where you get the rest of your quote or thoughts from in this last paragraph but you may want to start by understanding what movement you are referring to first.

      suffragist… To keep things simple believed in campaigning peacefully
      suffragette… Believed in direct action, civil disobedience and even committing criminal offences to support their agenda.

      I hope you are not saying the fawcett society is a suffragette society rather than a suffragist one. Millicent Fawcett would not be pleased with your confusion of the two. Or your advocating of the suffragette movement.

      Suffragists also believed in certain rights for woman more so than actual equality per say.

      Then again much of what Millicent believed seems to have been lost on this modern fawcett society.

      The The NUWSS back in her day adopted a peaceful and non-confrontational approach. This modern fawcett society from their website seems to want to encourage protest and very confrontational methods. Including one such protest in downing street back in 2011 which you can find out about via a quick google search but shockingly all record has been struck from the fawcett society webpages. I wonder why.

  6. Avatar Popcorn

    Need to get an extra large tub for this thread!

    If she was doing as good a job as her colleagues for half the wages, you’d have thought Talktalk would want to make one of the more expensive boys redundant rather than her.

    There is certainly the possibility that gender discrimination took place, both for pay and redundancy selection. But it’s also conceivable that she was chosen for redundancy because she was the crappest of the four at the job, or brought a negative attitude which impacted on her colleagues. Proving one way or the other is going to be tough.

    As for Dido, she was No Angel either…

  7. Avatar New_Londoner

    There are an awful lot of posts here from people that clearly do not think there is merit in the case, crowdfunding and/or gender discrimination. The same applies to the merits or otherwise of the Fawcett Society and Time’s Up.

    Since participation in the crowdfunding is entirely voluntary, if you have issues with the approach being taken why not just ignore it rather than expend a large amount of energy sharing your views on here, especially if you’ve not even taken the tine to read the story and background properly?

    • Avatar beany

      “Since participation in the crowdfunding is entirely voluntary, if you have issues with the approach being taken why not just ignore it rather than expend a large amount of energy sharing your views on here”

      The same could be said for ANY GENDER that feels others earning more than them in an organisation is unfair. Or to use similar words to your own.

      Participation in a job where you are paid less than your colleagues is entirely voluntary, if that is the approach being taken by a company leave and find a job where that is not the approach.

      Why not just ignore organisations like that rather than expend not only a large amount of energy, but other peoples money insisting they change???

      Ah the wonderful world of the differences of what people thing is morally correct eh? The human race, all capable of being physically different, thinking different, acting different, rather than being gender-less, non-thinking automatons.

  8. Avatar GoodNews

    Great debate below this article but the truth is I’m only looking out for myself and so are most other people if they are honest about it

  9. Avatar HavingAlAugh

    Prior to the programme director role in Cyber security, Rebecca was a contract programme manager on the York fibre deployment. Does she also think her day rate in this role was unequal to her male counterparts in similar roles, or does she consider she was paid an equal and fair wage at the time. She then took a permanent role with the business and was obviously happy to accept the remuneration that I am sure she negotiated at the time. If she was not happy with her offer then she had the choice to not accept the role. This is the same for any individual entering into a contract to buy or sell. It is your own choice as to whether you are happy with the transaction and if you aren’t then you can walk away.
    If you make people redundant, then you need to do a capability review for all people with similar roles and you keep the best person for that role and make the least best person redundant. Rebecca believes she was singled out for redundancy and the circumstances were suspicious. She went through the appeals process and presumably has either won a payout because the selection process was unfair, or lost as it was deemed that the other people in similar roles were better than her. Its a fact of life that if there is only one job going and more than one person goes for interview, only one person will be appointed and the others carry on their search. Any contractor will be very used to this process!!
    She was on £110k per year which is a pretty good salary for a programme director in IT in Manchester: https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Salaries/program-director-salary-SRCH_KO0,16.htm shows for LONDON average is £96k so the role paid well above the average. £154k (40% above her pay) is quite a lot of money and the article does not say what the experience and responsibilities of those individuals was (I am sure it was just programme director title rather than three people doing exactly the same).
    Perhaps a close look and reflection at skills, capabilities and worth is what is actually required here rather than a money grab.

    • Avatar beany

      “Perhaps a close look and reflection at skills, capabilities and worth is what is actually required here rather than a money grab.”

      Exactly, i do not know why the conversation actually even needs the explanation of a persons ‘worth’ to an organisation needs to be explained and why you should only be paid according to that worth. I tried to explain it with an example to Anothertim in a far earlier post https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/10/ex-talktalk-uk-director-crowdfunds-to-sue-isp-for-unequal-pay.html#comment-212013 and item number 4 in response to his questions. With 2 examples explaining why a man and a woman in same roles should be paid different.

      Why my logic was continually questioned beyond that point i do not know.
      A strong woman can understand the the logic of your worth equals what you should earn
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn_5HQ1AJi4

      Even a REAL feminist and not an en-titlist (what i term people such as this ex-TT employee) comprehends it.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfDynQFUHys

      Modern feminism like so many ONCE worthy movements has become a playground for Social Justice loons and those that just feel self Entitled/Important.

  10. Avatar Jerry

    That made for some excellent bed time reading and glad to see that other people’s opinions reflecting that of my own. Equality is about both genders not just females and not just men.

    Beany you have been on point and at no time could AnotherTim respond with a valid counterclaim.

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