Home
 » Interviews, ISP News » 
Sponsored Links

DrayTek Interview – A Brief Look Inside a Router Manufacturer

Saturday, Jul 25th, 2020 (12:01 am) - Score 10,172
draytek

Q7. Many broadband routers tend to ship with 1Gps Ethernet (LAN / WAN) ports as standard, which has been the norm for quite a few years now.

However, some ISPs are already offering 2Gbps and 10Gbps broadband connections via FTTH (more common in other countries than the UK), while home wireless networks can also benefit from multi-Gigabit local connectivity under 802.11ax (including some 802.11ac Wave 2 implementations).

Despite these changes we’ve yet to see many consumer routers being released with support for the 2.5G+ speed (or faster Ethernet standards) for wired LAN connections. Why is this and when can we expect that to start changing?

ANSWER:

The headline speeds for wireless often appear to be above 1Gbps Ethernet but in reality, for consumer products they’ve always been lower in terms of real-world throughput. WiFi 6 makes it feasible for 1Gbps + throughput to be seen, so the question of the LAN being a bottleneck become more relevant.

For the average home user, it’s less likely they’ll have a LAN side device which is capable of speeds above 1G although there are clearly examples in the area of network attached storage. I think developments on this will keep pace with the LAN demands.

Q8. DrayTek’s routers have tended to follow the same broad strokes of physical design style for as long as we can remember. Is this a case of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” (i.e. functionality over form) or do you plan any more radical looking visual router designs in the future?

draytek_Vigor_2862

ANSWER:

You have to admit there have been some strange looking devices released over the years, described as anything from a dead spider to a space ship.

Business class routers often need to be rack or wall mounted with the majority of our portfolio fitting into this category there has been no reason to justify a change, our customers like the look and the design shows quality, the port and LED layout means you don’t need to move the product to check cables, the power switch cant accidentally be hit.

So as you say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

Q9. Over the next few years it seems likely, as many operators retire copper lines and go full fibre, that demand will rise for broadband routers that can support VoIP phones (via FXO / FXS ports). At present only the top models in each of DrayTek’s ranges tend to include this sort of support but as demand rises then do you expect this to become a common requirement?

ANSWER:

Yes and a larger selection of VoIP products are on our roadmap, we will look to bring these out as demand increases.

Q10. At present 2020 is shaping up to be a very different year from previous ones, not least due to the impact of the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) on complex supply chains and network deployments. Can you tell us a bit about what sort of impact the pandemic has had on your company, if any, and how you’ve had to adapt?

ANSWER:

Obviously working from home for many of our colleagues has been a new experience, some have taken to it well others prefer the distinct break between the work environment and the home environment. Customer meetings have all been on line via different media channels and we fully expect this to be a large part of the “new normal”.

A large proportion of our customer base is the ISP industry, we have noticed a significant increase for information and requirements for VPN and LTE specifically where people working from home had capped data limits. On lockdown day we had a massive spike in sales for LTE and VPN products, with the exception of working from home the only key impact was having to fly stock in and the associated additional expense.

Q11. Finally, what, in your view, are the top five new features that you expect router manufactures to be adding over the next few years and why?

ANSWER:

Really good question. The first is clearly Fibre. VDSL is an excellent technology for speed and reliability, but there will be a migration to fibre to the home, which has the potential to deliver greater speeds and reliability.

Secondly, businesses management of their wider area network is going to be critical. The technology that will deliver this is called Software Defined WAN (SDWAN), and DrayTek will soon launch a platform for SDWAN.

Thirdly, recently events have highlighted strengths or perhaps weaknesses for employee’s ability to work from home. So, in the coming months there is likely be a focus of deploying technology to enable a greater home working capability in businesses.

Companies will look at deploying more technology within their businesses, either remote working capability, faster availability of data etc. They will look at technology companies like DrayTek who not only have the technology itself, but the means of supporting their hardware to get complicated features working to customer requirements. One of the greatest strengths of DrayTek is our ability to offer an excellent support service that enables customers to tap into support channels to help unlock the complex technology in our routers, firewalls, switches, and wireless products.

Fifth the obvious ones and some already exist – 802.11ax, Ethernet ports will be dual function and able to work with POT’s and also provide PoE, Bluetooth connectivity, built in LTE, touch screen control panel, SD-WAN.

We’d just like to take a moment to thank Richard for finding the time to engage with some of our questions.

Share with Twitter
Share with Linkedin
Share with Facebook
Share with Reddit
Share with Pinterest
Mark-Jackson
By Mark Jackson
Mark is a professional technology writer, IT consultant and computer engineer from Dorset (England), he also founded ISPreview in 1999 and enjoys analysing the latest telecoms and broadband developments. Find me on X (Twitter), Mastodon, Facebook and .
Search ISP News
Search ISP Listings
Search ISP Reviews
Comments
18 Responses
  1. Avatar photo Will says:

    Strange that in 2020 Draytek still don’t offer a 4×4 wifi 5 router, which would be ideal pairing that up with a 4×4 client (eg Asus PCE-AC88) or another 4×4 router/access point.

  2. Avatar photo Phil says:

    They’d find interoperability much easier if they bothered to get their devices Wi-Fi certified for interoperability! As it stands their products do not carry the Wi-Fi logo because they aren’t certified and they can’t say their products have Wi-Fi. Check out their website, you will not see the words Wi-Fi mentioned in any page or specification. So I would have asked why they don’t get (or can’t get) Wi-Fi accreditation? I’ve had Draytek kit and never again as connecting devices via Wi-Fi was often troublesome.

    1. Avatar photo OOBIOJIA says:

      Lmao?

      it says right here

      https://www.draytek.co.uk/products/comparison/router-comparison

      stop being a dumbass.

  3. Avatar photo Matthew says:

    Thanks for sharing this generous and insightful interview. Draytek has always been noted to make good quality kit able to meet future broadband requirements and technologies.

  4. Avatar photo Ben says:

    Yeah we use Draytek kit all the time but use separate WiFi AP’s as it’s own WiFi is seriously lacking in performance.

    1. Avatar photo A_Builder says:

      Agreed.

      Router yes – AP no.

  5. Avatar photo craski says:

    I have a Draytek 2925 and it has generally performed well. The web UI is a bit quirky but quite powerful. It is a bit annoying that Draytek provide some utilities that are Windows only though (e.g. The ability to read log output is not exposed in the web interface) but not a show stopper.

  6. Avatar photo Bob2002 says:

    I’ve used DrayTek in the past but after loads and loads of routers(including homebrew) I seem to have settled on MikroTik.

    I’m not sure what the future holds for consumer router manufacturers, you can basically build a very powerful router with a £40 SoC – 1.6GHz, 4-core, 10Gb and multiple 2.5Gb and 1Gb ethernet ports, USB 3, crypto acceleration, etc. You can build a very decent consumer router with a $7 SoC. Prices are only going to get lower, chips more powerful.

    1. Avatar photo __ says:

      whats the £40 soc out of interest

    2. Avatar photo Bob2002 says:

      >whats the £40 soc out of interest

      NXP LS1026A/LS1046A

  7. Avatar photo Paul M says:

    Draytek look like great products from their specifications, with a huge feature list for a good price. Maybe they’ve improved in the last few years but I used to regularly encounter them and they were a big nuisance, they’d crash regularly or some feature would stop working until rebooted (e.g. VPN service).

  8. Avatar photo Goodfellowadam says:

    When will DrayTek start selling reasonably priced routers with gigabit WAN throughput? I have a DrayTek router (and several of their wireless access points installed in my home) with a VDSL connection and a second WAN connection to a g.fast modem. It just about copes with 240mbps across its firewall but with 1gbps becoming commonplace they really need to up their game, should FTTP become availible to me I’ll have to look to another router manufacturer. Aside from that, DrayTek, love your products!

    1. Avatar photo A_Builder says:

      We have a whole load of Draytek 2960’s and they work perfectly at 1G.

      We have tested it with site to site FTP and other transfer protocols and we do get over 900Mbs so I wouldn’t consider them a bottle neck.

  9. Avatar photo tonyp says:

    I bought a 2860 several years ago (replacing two previous Draytek routers, a 27?? and a 2820) when only < 4Mb/S ADSL (wires only) was available to me. I thought it was necessary to prepare for VDSL in place of ADSL. However, FTTH suddenly became available just over a year ago and the 2860 enabled me to make the jump to FO using the ethernet WAN2 port. Installation went fine and I have been able to retain the existing ADSL service through the WAN1 port as a low speed backup. I really liked the ease of configuration at least on the WAN side.

    Well done Draytek.

    Just a thought though, I have attempted to use the LAN RIP routing to create a fully redundant triangular net. I have had problems with false routes (Martians) so have had to route internal LAN traffic away from the Draytek and use static routes. Ideally (for me) I wish OSPF was available on the LAN ports.

  10. Avatar photo J Karna says:

    I removed all my Draytek modem/routers as I found their so-called UK technical department inept. Months elapsed with support tickets (detailed reports presented) in limbo. Yes, I had businees support (care pack).
    I complained and discovered a brick wall.
    I replaced them with Openwrt modem/routers and have not had a single
    problem for over a year.The functionality of Openwrt and the software available is vastly superior. I just wish their products were Openwrt compatible.

  11. Avatar photo TTT says:

    I welcomed seeing this interview.

    I first came across Draytek in the mid 2000s, and I have deployed them with several small businesses since, particularly when they don’t want to sign a maintenance contract.
    Drayteks are incredibly stable, and Draytek are very good at providing firmware updates free of charge (compared to a Cisco SmartNet contract for example).
    The flexible connectivity options (particularly support for inner and outer VLAN tagging on the WAN interface) make them very versatile, and the VPN performance is unparalleled at this price point (and thank you for automatic failover!).

    There are some drawbacks however.
    – Configuration cannot be edited offline (e.g. in a text editor). This makes scheduled changes challenging, and require either preparing them on a secondary device, or on-the-fly (which isn’t an option for most business use cases).
    – Most configuration changes require a restart. This is again something that makes Drayteks less suitable for larger businesses, given that Cisco, Juniper etc allow applying (and rolling back!) config on the fly without any outages.

    Echoing the above comments, the WiFi isn’t much to write home about. WiFi connections are stable but not fast, and where more than about 10 users are connected, I usually recommend a Ubiquiti solution for the wireless, in combination with Draytek for routing.

    The biggest concern currently is China asserting increasing influence over Taiwan.
    Security is always an important topic, and many customers outright refuse Chinese options (ZTE, Huawei etc.), and so far, being a Taiwanese manufacturer has been acceptable (arguably beneficial) in many cases.
    However, China is very vocal about making Taiwan Chinese these days, and depending how this goes, Draytek may soon fall off the list of possible options (unless they choose to move country of course).
    Let’s hope this doesn’t happen.

    In any case, if somebody is looking for a stable, dependable and affordable solution with excellent VPN performance, I would recommend Draytek in a heartbeat.

  12. Avatar photo Carl says:

    Draytek have always been a reliable choice. I recently had to go to an emergency job at a gas terminal where comms had dropped due to 100Mb fibre fault and lightening taking out wifi and other kit. A 10 year old 2820 router was still working fine as gateway. It was like visting ghost of IT past. Loads of HP servers, NAS, switches, ADSL routers etc all powered on but not in use but no one would risk turning off as they did not know what they were for.. I always keep a Draytek router in my boot as a get out of jail card.

Comments are closed

Cheap BIG ISPs for 100Mbps+
Community Fibre UK ISP Logo
150Mbps
Gift: None
Virgin Media UK ISP Logo
Virgin Media £26.00
132Mbps
Gift: None
Shell Energy UK ISP Logo
Shell Energy £26.99
109Mbps
Gift: None
Plusnet UK ISP Logo
Plusnet £27.99
145Mbps
Gift: None
Zen Internet UK ISP Logo
Zen Internet £28.00 - 35.00
100Mbps
Gift: None
Large Availability | View All
Cheapest ISPs for 100Mbps+
Gigaclear UK ISP Logo
Gigaclear £17.00
200Mbps
Gift: None
YouFibre UK ISP Logo
YouFibre £19.99
150Mbps
Gift: None
Community Fibre UK ISP Logo
150Mbps
Gift: None
BeFibre UK ISP Logo
BeFibre £21.00
150Mbps
Gift: £25 Love2Shop Card
Hey! Broadband UK ISP Logo
150Mbps
Gift: None
Large Availability | View All
The Top 15 Category Tags
  1. FTTP (5514)
  2. BT (3514)
  3. Politics (2537)
  4. Openreach (2297)
  5. Business (2262)
  6. Building Digital UK (2244)
  7. FTTC (2043)
  8. Mobile Broadband (1973)
  9. Statistics (1788)
  10. 4G (1664)
  11. Virgin Media (1619)
  12. Ofcom Regulation (1461)
  13. Fibre Optic (1395)
  14. Wireless Internet (1389)
  15. FTTH (1381)

Helpful ISP Guides and Tips

Promotion
Sponsored

Copyright © 1999 to Present - ISPreview.co.uk - All Rights Reserved - Terms , Privacy and Cookie Policy , Links , Website Rules , Contact
Mastodon