{"id":11219,"date":"2016-02-23T14:54:22","date_gmt":"2016-02-23T14:54:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=11219"},"modified":"2016-02-24T08:33:03","modified_gmt":"2016-02-24T08:33:03","slug":"entanet-laments-loss-of-bt-openreach-approved-vdsl-modems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2016\/02\/entanet-laments-loss-of-bt-openreach-approved-vdsl-modems.html","title":{"rendered":"UPDATE Entanet Laments Loss of Openreach Approved VDSL Modems"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Shropshire-based communications provider <a href=\"http:\/\/www.enta.net\" target=\"_new\">Entanet<\/a> has today warned of the &#8220;<em>potential for confusion and misunderstandings<\/em>&#8221; when BTOpenreach finally withdraws its VDSL Modem from their own <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttc\">FTTC<\/a> &#8220;<em>fibre broadband<\/em>&#8221; installation service at the end of March 2016.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The change, which is perhaps a reflection of the fact that most <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttc\">FTTC<\/a> installations are now of the self-install variety (wires-only where the ISP supplies their own router \/ modem), is nothing new and those with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a>&#8217;s own-brand VDSL Modem will at least continue to be supported for another year.<\/p>\n<p>Never the less ISPs aren&#8217;t especially pleased with the development, not least because being able to use <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a>&#8217;s own VDSL modem made support easier (i.e. a familiar \/ shared platform, quick to update firmware and easy to replace faulty kit).<\/p>\n<p>Similarly some ISPs don&#8217;t relish having to put their own choice of kit through <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a>&#8217;s <strong>Modem Conformance Test<\/strong> (MCT), which is necessary because Openreach may refuse to support consumers who use third-party (unapproved) routers.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bq1\"><p><strong>Neil Watson, Entanets Head of Service, said:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;A further point of concern for us comes with the key phrase \u201c<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a> approved and Openreach compatible modem\/routing device<\/em>\u201d. What this actually means is that any device supplied needs to support <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/vdsl\">VDSL2<\/a>+ technology and have passed Openreach\u2019s Modem Conformance Test (MCT). While <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/entanet\" target=\"_blank\">Entanet<\/a> partners are able to identify approved devices through our partner portal (synergi), consumers are largely clueless about this requirement and indeed what constitutes an approved device.<\/p>\n<p>And here once again, the onus falls on the reseller to educate consumers on what could happen if they choose to use a device that supports <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/vdsl\">VDSL2<\/a>+ but that hasn\u2019t passed the MCT. Should a problem occur that requires BTs involvement to achieve a resolution, they will easily identify unapproved equipment through loopback testing. If unauthorised equipment is detected, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a> can:<\/p>\n<p>* Request that the device is disconnected<br \/>\n* Limit or disconnect the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttc\">FTTC<\/a> service<br \/>\n* Refuse to fix problems<br \/>\n* Levy charges for either an abortive visit as well as any special faults investigation charge.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The issue will thus be most keenly felt by smaller ISPs that have tended to stick with the old engineer installations (i.e. those that included Openreach&#8217;s own VDSL modem) and some fear that it may eventually result in more calls to the customer support desk.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand Openreach will still offer an engineer installation, albeit at a greater cost and using the ISPs own MCT approved CPE (router\/modem) equipment. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/entanet\" target=\"_blank\">Entanet<\/a> draws the following Pros and Cons from the new approach.<\/p>\n<table style=\"height: 316px;\" width=\"660\" cellspacing=\"3\" cellpadding=\"3\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>Pros<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>Cons<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><strong>Wires only installation<\/strong><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<ul>\n<li>Lower cost FTTC installation.<\/li>\n<li>No requirement for an engineer visit at end-user premises, so no issues arranging appointments.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<ul>\n<li>An engineer will not be able to diagnose problems at the end-user premises on connection.<\/li>\n<li>Using microfilters rather than a service specific faceplate could impact achievable upstream and downstream speeds.<\/li>\n<li>End users will have to connect a modem\/router themselves.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><strong>Installation with engineer visit to uplift wiring and fit faceplate<\/strong><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<ul>\n<li>Connecting to master socket via engineer fitted service specific faceplate ensures speeds are the best they can be for that connection.<\/li>\n<li>Microfilters are not required.<\/li>\n<li>Engineer can diagnose problems on-site.<\/li>\n<li>Engineer can connect modem\/routing device if supplied in advance.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li>Requirement to arrange engineer visit to end-user premises.<\/li>\n<li>Higher cost of installation than previously (where passed onto consumer).<\/li>\n<li>If modem\/router not available on site on the day of the engineer visit, the engineer could walk away.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/entanet\" target=\"_blank\">Entanet<\/a> does make a fair point about the MCT, particularly in regards to the lack of information about which routers have been approved. We have prodded Openreach to supply this a few times over the past few months, although for some reason they&#8217;ve always been reluctant to answer.<\/p>\n<p>Thankfully we do have a partial list of approved or under evaluation VDSL routers \/ modems, which stems from a couple of last year&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a> Wholesale ISP Forum events. Sadly this list is far from complete, but at least it&#8217;s better than nothing and Openreach should really be doing more to make the full information available as consumers need to know about it too.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>Approved<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Cisco C887VA-K9 (Firmware: 39m_B_38h3_24h)<br \/>\nCisco C897VA-K9 (Firmware: 39m_B_38h3_24h)<br \/>\nZyxel VMG8324-B10A (Firmware: A2pv6F039q)<br \/>\nZyxel VMG8924 (Z-400UK) (Firmware: 1.00(AAKL.10)C0_0703)<br \/>\nHuawei HG633 (Firmware: 3_01.32.10)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>Under Evaluation (these might have been approved by now)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Zxcel1312 Zxcel<br \/>\nc897VA-M Annex-M Cisco<br \/>\nTechnicolor TG598VAC Thomson<br \/>\nCisco 897 VAB Cisco<br \/>\nHuawei V2R2 Huawei<br \/>\nCisco 897 NIM Module Cisco<br \/>\nBillion 2.32d.dm2 Billion<br \/>\nJuniper SRX210 Juniper<br \/>\nFritzboxGMBH AVM<br \/>\nVigor 2860 Dratek<br \/>\nTechnicolor 589v3 (Firmware: A2pv6F037g.d24c1)<br \/>\nTechnicolor TG598VAC (Firmware: A2pv6F039o1.d26b)<br \/>\nZyxel 1312 (Firmware: V1.00(AAJZ.5)b2_0331)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s worth pointing out that if a device fails Openreach&#8217;s MCT test then the wait time for another try is, according to what ISPs tell us, currently 11 months. Not exactly the fastest process in the world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One ISP has been kind enough to supply us with the latest list of approved VDSL routers \/ modems and they also raised another question with regards to the seeming absence of BT&#8217;s Home Hub (apparently it&#8217;s not available to buy and so that&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t appear below, except you can buy a HH5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shop.bt.com\/products\/bt-home-hub-5-068343-90RY.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cisco (chipset firmware all 39m_B_38h3_24h):<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>C887VA-K9<br \/>\nC897VA-K9<br \/>\nCISCO887VA-K9<br \/>\nCISCO887VA-M-K9<br \/>\nCISCO887VA-SEC-K9<br \/>\nC887VAM-K9<br \/>\nC887VA-W-E-K9<br \/>\nC887VAM-W-E-K9<br \/>\nC887VA-V-K9<br \/>\nC887VA-V-W-E-K9<br \/>\nC887VA-CUBE-K9<br \/>\nC887VAG+7-K9<br \/>\nC887VAMG+7-K9<br \/>\nC887VAGW+7-E-K9<br \/>\nC887VA-WD-E-K9<br \/>\nC887VAG-<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/4g\">4G<\/a>-GA-K9<br \/>\nC897VAW-E-K9<br \/>\nC897VAM-W-E-K9<br \/>\nC897VAG-LTE-GA-k9<br \/>\nC897VAMG-LTE-GA-K9<br \/>\nEHWIC-VA-<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/adsl\">DSL<\/a>-A<br \/>\nEHWIC-VA-<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/adsl\">DSL<\/a>-M<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zyxel:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>VMG8324-B10A<br \/>\nVMG8924 (Z-400UK)<br \/>\nVMG1312-B10A<\/p>\n<p><strong>Huawei:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HG633<\/p>\n<p><strong>Technicolor:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>TG589Vac<br \/>\nTG789Vac<br \/>\nTG588v2<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kenton Comtrend:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>VR-3030<\/p>\n<p><strong>Draytek (all firmware 05.07.06.0D.01.07):<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vigor 2860<br \/>\nVigor 2860vn Plus<br \/>\nVigor 2860n<br \/>\nVigor 2860n Plus<br \/>\nVigor 2860L<br \/>\nVigor 2860Ln<br \/>\nVigor 2860ac<br \/>\nVigor 2760<br \/>\nVigor 2760vn<br \/>\nVigor 2760n<br \/>\nVigor 130<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE2:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Just to clarify, this is a very mixed list of generally approved router \/ modems as extracted from BTWholesale&#8217;s approved table (includes VDSL devices, as well as other kit). As such it should not be taken as a complete list or purely VDSL related. Only Openreach can confirm the full list.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Shropshire-based communications provider Entanet has today warned of the &#8220;potential for confusion and misunderstandings&#8221; when BTOpenreach finally withdraws its VDSL Modem from their own FTTC &#8220;fibre broadband&#8221; installation service at the end of March 2016.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[404,55,69],"class_list":["post-11219","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uk_isp_news","tag-entanet","tag-fttc","tag-bt-openreach"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>UPDATE Entanet Laments Loss of Openreach Approved VDSL Modems - 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