{"id":1292,"date":"2012-07-18T10:16:50","date_gmt":"2012-07-18T09:16:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=1292"},"modified":"2012-07-18T11:25:50","modified_gmt":"2012-07-18T10:25:50","slug":"aaisp-uk-boss-slams-bt-engineers-over-homehub3-router-bias","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2012\/07\/aaisp-uk-boss-slams-bt-engineers-over-homehub3-router-bias.html","title":{"rendered":"UPDATE AAISP UK Boss Slams BT Engineers over HomeHub3 Router Bias"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The often outspoken boss of business ISP Andrews &amp; Arnold (AAISP), <strong>Adrian Kennard<\/strong>, has criticised BTOpenreach&#8217;s engineers today for trying to sell one of its customers a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a>-Infinity (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttc\">FTTC<\/a>) <strong>HomeHub3<\/strong> router while being paid to fix a separate problem and sometimes refusing to fix faults unless one is present.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>BTOpenreach is responsible for managing access to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a>&#8217;s national UK telecoms and internet access network and is supposed to be separate from the operators own <strong>BTRetail<\/strong> division, which sells the separate <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a>-Infinity superfast broadband service and related HH3 router directly to consumers. As a result its engineers need to be impartial and independent of BTRetail&#8217;s products.<\/p>\n<p>In this case <a href=\"http:\/\/revk.www.me.uk\/2012\/07\/get-home-hub-3-from-bt.html\" target=\"_blank\">Kennard claims<\/a>, one of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a>&#8217;s engineers advised a customer that their router &#8220;<em>was not a BT home hub3<\/em>&#8221; and instead &#8220;<em>suggested that they get one from BT<\/em>&#8220;. But that&#8217;s only part of what appears to be a wider problem.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bq1\"><p><strong>Adrian Kennard, Director of Andrews &amp; Arnold, said (<a href=\"http:\/\/revk.www.me.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\">blog<\/a>):<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>Hmm, nice one BT, not! Trying to sell your products to our customers when we are paying you to fix a broken service that we pay you for.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Sadly, when something breaks, we often have to get a BT engineer out to fix it, as they have an exclusive right to work on the national infrastructure that is the BT network. They do say some annoying things to our customers on occasion. They sometimes refer to the service as Infinity (as they did in this case), and have even been known to refuse to install a service because a customer does not have a BT Home Hub.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I think this is the first case where they have said that the customer should get a BT Home Hub when repairing a fault. It makes us look stupid and is very anti-competitive<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The situation is not entirely unique to AAISP and we have heard <strong>similar grumbles from other ISPs<\/strong> in the past, some of which we reported on a few years ago when covering the hoopla over SFI\/SFI2 fault handling. Interestingly a number of comments on Kennard&#8217;s blog seem to support this, with\u00a0one referencing similar gripes (apparently some engineers assume you are having a BTRetail service even when you aren&#8217;t), although few are ever willing to go on record when we ask.<\/p>\n<p>However it must be said that the vast majority of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a>&#8217;s engineers still manage to conduct their work properly and can at least recognise the difference in other products or technology. Unfortunately not all are quite so well trained, it seems. As a side note the related AAISP customer still has not had their fault resolved.<\/p>\n<p>ISPreview.co.uk got in touch with BTOpenreach about the issue first thing this morning and the operator has promised to investigate. We hope to post their response later today.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE 11:23am<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>BTOpenreach has kindly given us a response to the above issue, which encourages affected customers to escalate their concerns.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bq1\"><p><strong>A BTOpenreach spokesperson told ISPreview.co.uk:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a> takes its responsibility to provide fair and equivalent service to all CP customers very seriously. We make considerable efforts to ensure that our engineers are aware of these responsibilities and act fairly and according to our obligations. We would therefore encourage those CP customers who have commented on this issue on a blog post to raise it directly with Openreach&#8217;s customer management team so that we can investigate the specific circumstances relating to each case and take the necessary action<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The often outspoken boss of business ISP Andrews &amp; Arnold (AAISP), Adrian Kennard, has criticised BTOpenreach&#8217;s engineers today for trying to sell one of its customers a BT-Infinity (FTTC) HomeHub3 router while being paid to fix a separate problem and sometimes refusing to fix faults unless one is present.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[35,474,55,69],"class_list":["post-1292","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uk_isp_news","tag-aaisp","tag-bt","tag-fttc","tag-bt-openreach"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>UPDATE AAISP UK Boss Slams BT Engineers over HomeHub3 Router Bias - ISPreview UK<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The often outspoken boss of business ISP Andrews &amp; 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