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A Sky News report has today claimed that TalkTalk<\/a>’s proposed \u00a31.5bn plan to roll-out a new 1Gbps Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP<\/a>) broadband ISP network to cover 3 million UK premises may have stalled, which allegedly stems from a valuation dispute with investment partner Infracapital.<\/p>\n

According to Sky News<\/a>, talks between the Joint Venture<\/strong> partners are still on-going but they have reached a stumbling block. Banking sources are said to have claimed that the ISP was “disappointed<\/em>” by the value that Infracapital<\/strong> had attributed to their “full fibre<\/em>” trial in the City of York<\/strong>, which is said to cover 20,000 premises and is aiming to reach around 54,000 by the end of 2019.<\/p>\n

The York deployment has been slow going since it was first announced all the way back in 2014 (here<\/a>). It was supported by an initial investment of \u00a35 million<\/strong> from each of Sky Broadband<\/a> and TalkTalk<\/a>, while the network itself was then built by Cityfibre<\/a> who already had an existing 10Gbps capable and 103km long fibre optic ring in the city (The York Core<\/a>).<\/p>\n

On top of that first \u00a310m, the later expansion (i.e. building beyond the original commitment of 14,000) to reach 54,000 premises<\/strong> was estimated to require another \u00a320 million<\/strong> (here<\/a>), which ultimately had to come from TalkTalk<\/a> since by that stage Sky Broadband<\/a> had reduced their interest to that of a mere wholesale partner.<\/p>\n

Despite this TalkTalk has previously stated that their roll-out in York had so far produced take-up of 35% for the first 14,000 premises and that build costs had come in below \u00a3500 per home passed, which is roughly where they wanted it to be. But clearly there’s some disagreement over how all of this should be valued and where the payback point will come.<\/p>\n

Under the new \u00a31.5bn plan announced on 8th February 2018 (here<\/a>), TalkTalk proposed to establish a new company (Infraco<\/strong>), which in turn would be 20% owned by TalkTalk and 80% by Infracapital (the infrastructure equity investment arm of M&G Prudential). The latter would contribute \u00a3400m and TalkTalk \u00a3100m (plus they expected take on c.\u00a31bn in debt).<\/p>\n

However, as we reported last Saturday (here<\/a>), there have been no truly significant updates on the Infracapital project since it was announced. At the time we were hearing similar whispers to Sky News and warned that TalkTalk was at risk of being overtaken by rivals that had already made stronger commitments (Summary of UK Full Fibre Plans<\/a><\/strong>). But TalkTalk told us not to worry.<\/p>\n

A TalkTalk Spokesperson told ISPreview.co.uk (3rd Nov 2018):<\/strong><\/p>\n

“TalkTalk plans to be at the heart of Britain\u2019s full-fibre future. As the leading value-for-money provider, we want to ensure all our customers can access it at affordable prices.<\/p>\n

We\u2019ve outlined our commitment to roll-out full-fibre to three million homes via a new infrastructure company, and we have already appointed a new CEO and Chairman. We\u2019ll provide further updates shortly.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Suffice to say that Sky’s report casts further doubt on the planned deployment and TalkTalk will need to resolve this quickly or risk their deal with Infracapital collapsing. If that did happen then Sky News suggests that TalkTalk would simply try again with a different partner.<\/p>\n

As we said on Saturday, we think TalkTalk would have done better to partner up with Cityfibre<\/a> again or somebody else who is already building such networks, particularly given the known shortage of skilled telecoms engineers and the rising level of competitive build ambitions between operators. But getting into bed with Cityfibre<\/a> again, particularly now that Vodafone<\/a> have secured prime position, could be tricky.<\/p>\n

All eyes will now be on the ISPs forthcoming financial results, which we hope will provide some closure to these concerns and put TalkTalk back on the right track.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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