{"id":19372,"date":"2019-09-02T08:28:13","date_gmt":"2019-09-02T07:28:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=19372"},"modified":"2019-09-02T08:28:13","modified_gmt":"2019-09-02T07:28:13","slug":"icon-and-macquarie-ponder-investment-in-talktalks-fibrenation-ftth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/09\/icon-and-macquarie-ponder-investment-in-talktalks-fibrenation-ftth.html","title":{"rendered":"iCon and Macquarie Ponder Investment in TalkTalk&#8217;s FibreNation FTTH"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Budget UK ISP <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-59\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"talktalk\">TalkTalk<\/a> appears to be having some success in courting interest from investors in their sibling wholesale <a href=\"https:\/\/fibrenation.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">FibreNation<\/a> company, which proposes to build a 1000Mbps &#8220;<em>full fibre<\/em>&#8221; (<a class=\"shortlink shortlink-110 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"fttp\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/broadband_fibre_optic.php\">FTTP<\/a>) broadband network to cover 3 million UK premises. The latest to enter the ring are investment firms iCon Infrastructure and Macquarie.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>At present the new independent wholesale company only has around 50,000 premises passed in York (a big chunk of this was originally built with support from <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-71 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"cityfibre\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.cityfibre.com\">Cityfibre<\/a> and <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-86\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/bskyb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Sky Broadband\">Sky Broadband<\/a>) and they&#8217;re just starting to build into several new towns including <strong>Harrogate<\/strong>, <strong>Knaresborough<\/strong>, <strong>Dewsbury<\/strong> and <strong>Ripon<\/strong> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/08\/talktalks-fibrenation-start-ftth-broadband-rollout-in-dewsbury-uk.html\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>However the new network seeks to go a lot further and <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-59\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"talktalk\">TalkTalk<\/a> has previously indicated that reaching 3 million premises could cost around <strong>\u00a31.5bn<\/strong> (i.e. \u00a3500m in equity and \u00a31bn from debt). Initially<strong> Infracapital<\/strong> had tentatively agreed to help fund the build but that deal fell through following a dispute over the valuation of their proposed network (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2018\/11\/dispute-puts-talktalk-1-5bn-uk-ftth-broadband-rollout-into-limbo.html\">here<\/a>), which left the ISP hunting for alternative investors to help co-fund the project.<\/p>\n<p>Since then reports have indicated that the <strong>Goldman Sachs<\/strong> backed <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-71 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"cityfibre\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.cityfibre.com\">Cityfibre<\/a> project could be looking to acquire 100% of FibreNation from TalkTalk (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/08\/goldman-sacks-and-cityfibre-sniffing-acquisition-of-talktalks-fibrenation.html\">here<\/a>), which may not be quite what the ISP had in mind. We suspect TalkTalk would only sell like this if they could extract a good price and some degree of preferential wholesale access to Cityfibre&#8217;s wider FTTH network (difficult to do given CF&#8217;s existing deal with <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-90\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"vodafone\">Vodafone<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>The good news, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/business\/2019\/08\/31\/investment-firm-icon-joins-firms-interested-talktalks-fibrenationnetwork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Telegraph<\/a> (paywall), is that another investment firm &#8211; <strong>iCon Infrastructure<\/strong> (they previously ran train leasing company Porterbrook) &#8211; also appears to have thrown their hat into the ring. A third potential investor firm &#8211; <strong>Macquarie<\/strong> (they recently <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/08\/macquarie-finalise-627m-gobble-of-isp-kcom-in-east-yorkshire-uk.html\">gobbled up KCOM<\/a> in East Yorkshire for an inflated price of \u00a3627m) &#8211; is also reported to be sniffing around FibreNation.<\/p>\n<p>Admittedly it&#8217;s not unusual for investment firms to show a serious interest in such projects, although turning that interest into a tangible agreement has so far proven rather difficult for TalkTalk. The prospective investors will no doubt be very mindful of Infracapital&#8217;s dispute and as such the ISP may have to surrender more control of their future <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-110 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"fttp\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/broadband_fibre_optic.php\">FTTP<\/a> network if they want to get the funding locked down. Easier said than done.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Budget UK ISP TalkTalk appears to be having some success in courting interest from investors in their sibling wholesale FibreNation company, which proposes to build a 1000Mbps &#8220;full fibre&#8221; (FTTP) broadband network to cover 3 million UK premises. The latest to enter the ring are investment firms iCon Infrastructure and Macquarie.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[472,418,65,56,74],"class_list":["post-19372","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uk_isp_news","tag-business","tag-cityfibre","tag-ftth","tag-fttp","tag-talktalk"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>iCon and Macquarie Ponder Investment in TalkTalk&#039;s FibreNation FTTH - ISPreview UK<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Budget UK ISP TalkTalk appears to be having some success in courting interest from investors in their sibling wholesale FibreNation company, which\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/09\/icon-and-macquarie-ponder-investment-in-talktalks-fibrenation-ftth.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"iCon and Macquarie Ponder Investment in TalkTalk&#039;s FibreNation FTTH - 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