{"id":20205,"date":"2019-11-26T06:43:22","date_gmt":"2019-11-26T06:43:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=20205"},"modified":"2019-11-26T06:50:56","modified_gmt":"2019-11-26T06:50:56","slug":"cityfibre-seek-flexibility-from-vodafones-full-fibre-isp-contract","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/11\/cityfibre-seek-flexibility-from-vodafones-full-fibre-isp-contract.html","title":{"rendered":"Cityfibre Seek Flexibility from Vodafone&#8217;s Full Fibre ISP Contract"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>At present if you want to take a home broadband service on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\">Cityfibre<\/a>&#8217;s new Fibre-to-the-Home (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/ftth\">FTTH<\/a>) network then, under an exclusivity agreement, you have to get it from their UK ISP partner <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vodafone<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafonegigafast\">Gigafast Broadband<\/a>). But if a reported contract renegotiation succeeds then more ISPs could join (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">TalkTalk<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/bskyb\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Sky Broadband<\/a> etc.).<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>One of the achilles heels of many new alternative fibre optic networks is that they lack support from a major ISP, which was also one of the contributing factors in the collapse of the publicly funded <strong>Digital Region<\/strong> network in South Yorkshire some years ago (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2014\/06\/south-yorkshire-uk-digital-region-network-cost-70m-shutdown.html\">here<\/a>). By getting a major ISP to support your network you benefit from their marketing prowess, support and mass market appeal, among other things, which helps to convert customers.<\/p>\n<p>As such when <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\">Cityfibre<\/a> announced their <strong>\u00a32.5bn<\/strong> network rollout strategy in 2018 they did so alongside an exclusivity agreement with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vodafone<\/a> UK (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2018\/10\/cityfibre-get-2-5bn-to-build-ftth-broadband-to-5-million-uk-homes.html\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/07\/cityfibre-confirm-14-uk-towns-and-cities-for-phase-2-ftth-rollout.html\">here<\/a>). At present <strong>Phase One<\/strong> of this deployment has already seen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\">Cityfibre<\/a> commit <strong>\u00a3500m<\/strong> to cover a &#8220;<em>minimum<\/em>&#8221; of 1 million homes and businesses in 12 initial cities and towns by the end of 2021 (so far they&#8217;ve done well over 100,000 and are ramping up), before reaching 5 million premises across 60 UK cities and towns by the end of 2025.<\/p>\n<p>Since that began the market has begun to change and some big ISPs, such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/bskyb\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Sky Broadband<\/a>, have been openly hunting for partnerships with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vm\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin Media<\/a> and alternative network (altnet) providers (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/03\/sky-broadband-uk-seek-full-fibre-isp-alliance-with-openreach-rivals.html\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/09\/sky-broadband-consider-fttp-partnership-with-virgin-media-sibling.html\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/09\/sky-get-wholesale-access-to-buuk-full-fibre-broadband-networks.html\">here<\/a>). Meanwhile Cityfibre are also in the frame to acquire <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">TalkTalk<\/a>&#8217;s full fibre network sibling &#8211; FibreNation (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/11\/talktalk-prep-imminent-launch-of-openreach-fttp-broadband.html\">here<\/a>). On top of that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vodafone<\/a> has moved to take <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a>&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttp\">FTTP<\/a>, which feels like an uncomfortable position for Cityfibre (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/11\/isp-vodafone-uk-extends-fttp-broadband-with-openreach-deal.html\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>At present Vodafone is understood to have some exclusivity over Cityfibre&#8217;s first 1 million premises (essentially lasting until they finish the build in each of those 12 initial cities). Naturally, given the aforementioned situation, it would not be surprising if Cityfibre were to seek a major contract renegotiation with Vodafone and that&#8217;s precisely what the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/business\/2019\/11\/25\/cityfibre-tries-break-free-vodafone-handcuffs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Telegraph<\/a> claims is happening.<\/p>\n<p>The report suggests that Cityfibre may be seeking concessions from Vodafone, which would hand the ISP better commercial terms (details are not mentioned but we suspect this could involve cheaper wholesale products or limited access to better speeds) in return for allowing them to sign-up additional ISPs. The talks are said to be at an advanced stage and would no doubt be essential if Cityfibre do gobble FibreNation for <strong>c.\u00a3200m<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>The proposed deal with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">TalkTalk<\/a> for FibreNation was last week paused after Labour&#8217;s threat to the market, which proposed a free nationalised full fibre network for all UK homes and businesses. Commercial ISPs could not compete with that (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/11\/uk-isp-association-blasts-labours-nationalised-free-full-fibre.html\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/11\/2020-labour-party-pegs-20bn-to-deploy-free-full-fibre-for-all.html\">here<\/a>) and so some market deals and investments have been put on hold until after the election.<\/p>\n<p>According to the newspaper, part of the Cityfibre deal for FibreNation would involve a requirement for TalkTalk to migrate their broadband customers in related areas on to Cityfibre&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/ftth\">FTTH<\/a> network as coverage grows (we hope customers will be given a choice). We suspect there will be a lot of interesting developments to report after the 2019 General Election on 12th December.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At present if you want to take a home broadband service on Cityfibre&#8217;s new Fibre-to-the-Home (FTTH) network then, under an exclusivity agreement, you have to get it from their UK ISP partner Vodafone (Gigafast Broadband). But if a reported contract renegotiation succeeds then more ISPs could join (TalkTalk, Sky Broadband etc.).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":20206,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[472,418,65,56,96],"class_list":["post-20205","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uk_isp_news","tag-business","tag-cityfibre","tag-ftth","tag-fttp","tag-vodafone"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Cityfibre Seek Flexibility from Vodafone&#039;s Full Fibre ISP Contract - ISPreview UK<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"At present if you want to take a home broadband service on Cityfibre&#039;s new Fibre-to-the-Home (FTTH) network then, under an exclusivity agreement, you have\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2019\/11\/cityfibre-seek-flexibility-from-vodafones-full-fibre-isp-contract.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Cityfibre Seek Flexibility from Vodafone&#039;s Full Fibre ISP Contract - 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