{"id":23084,"date":"2020-07-09T14:55:44","date_gmt":"2020-07-09T13:55:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=23084"},"modified":"2020-07-13T13:14:51","modified_gmt":"2020-07-13T12:14:51","slug":"bt-and-vodafone-seek-5-7-years-to-pull-huawei-or-risk-blackouts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2020\/07\/bt-and-vodafone-seek-5-7-years-to-pull-huawei-or-risk-blackouts.html","title":{"rendered":"BT and Vodafone Seek 5-7 Years to Pull Huawei or Risk Blackouts UPDATE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Senior broadband and mobile figures from UK telecoms giants <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vodafone<\/a> have today warned cross-party MPs on the <a href=\"https:\/\/committees.parliament.uk\/event\/1521\/formal-meeting-oral-evidence-session\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Science and Technology Committee<\/a> that they&#8217;d need at least 5-7 years to fully remove Huawei&#8217;s kit from their networks, or &#8220;<em>blackouts<\/em>&#8221; could be a risk. The cost may also rise into the billions.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>As most people know there is currently a heated debate (again) around the future of Huawei in the UK. The Government&#8217;s adopted position, as of January 2020 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2020\/01\/huawei-you-go-uk-green-lights-firm-for-non-core-telecoms-kit.html\">here<\/a>), banned operators from installing Huawei&#8217;s kit in the sensitive core part of their networks, but allowed its continued use in non-core parts (e.g. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/5g\">5G<\/a> antennas, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttc\">FTTC<\/a> cabinets, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttp\">FTTP<\/a> ONTs etc.). A cap of 35% was also placed on the company&#8217;s kit to ensure that operators made use of other suppliers (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a> alone forecast a \u00a3500m hit from this over the next 5 years).<\/p>\n<p>Since then several key events have occurred, which recently prompted the Government to launch an urgent review of its position. Firstly, the USA has continued to tighten its restrictions against Huawei and, as a result, there are now concerns that this may result in the company being forced to adopt less trustworthy components into their hardware. Meanwhile Huawei claims its too early to make that judgement.<\/p>\n<p>On top of that the <strong>COVID-19<\/strong> crisis and the situation in <strong>Hong Kong<\/strong> have both resulted in a growing number of MPs demanding that the UK take a tougher line toward China. Lest we also forget that the UK and USA are also involved in sensitive post-Brexit trade talks, as well as the USA&#8217;s own on-going trade talks with China, which adds another complex political dynamic.<\/p>\n<p>Back in May 2020 the Government was widely reported to be considering a U-turn over their January decision, which could reportedly impose a complete BAN against kit from Huawei by 2023. But that would have also meant ripping out all of their existing kit in a very short space of time, which seems likely to be both practically and economically unworkable.<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #339966;\"><strong>Risk of Blackouts<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Both <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vodafone<\/a> make heavy use of Huawei&#8217;s equipment and, following the January decision, are already in the process of reducing that further through the wider adoption of new or existing suppliers (e.g. Huawei, ADTRAN, Nokia, Ericsson etc.). As such their feedback to today&#8217;s committee event in the House of Commons (Parliament) has helped to reflect their position on the latest development.<\/p>\n<p>According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lightreading.com\/5g\/bt-vodafone-warn-of-blackouts-if-not-given-five-years-to-be-huawei-free\/d\/d-id\/762280\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lightreading<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vodafone<\/a>&#8217;s Head of Network, <strong>Andrea Dona<\/strong>, said a &#8220;<em>minimum<\/em>&#8221; transition period of 5 years is required and the cost of completely removing Huawei&#8217;s kit would grow from hundreds of millions to the low single-digit &#8220;<em>billions<\/em>&#8220;. Andrea added that trying to meet a shorter deadline, such as 2023, was likely to result in sporadic losses of service.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile BT&#8217;s CTO and CIO, <strong>Howard Watson<\/strong>, largely agreed with Andrea but suggested that a 7 year time-frame would be more realistic. &#8220;<em>It is logistically impossible to get to zero in three years &#8230; that would mean blackouts for customers. We would not recommend going down that route,<\/em>&#8221; said Howard. BT said completely removing Huawei would add &#8220;<em>tens to hundreds<\/em>&#8221; of millions to its current cost expectation of c.\u00a3500m.<\/p>\n<p>Forcing engineers to focus on ripping out existing equipment in a shorter time-frame would also take significant resources away from other projects, such as the on-going deployment of gigabit-capable broadband services (i.e. delays). &#8220;<em>To take [it] all out would require multiple sites to be turned off for at least a day and sometimes two days. We would need to close streets, bring in cranes. That is logistically not practical in &#8230; three years<\/em>,&#8221; added Watson.<\/p>\n<p>The current expectation is that the Government, having recognised this reality, may now take a softer approach and simply order telecoms operators to stop installing new Huawei kit by a certain date, albeit while giving them a much longer window to retire their existing equipment as it reaches a more natural end-of-life. Other reports indicate that BT and Vodafone have also been told by the Government to stockpile Huawei&#8217;s kit ahead of such a policy shift.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE 13th July 2020<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Apparently, the above comments from BT and Vodafone were only made in reference to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/4g\">4G<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/5g\">5G<\/a> mobile networks, which didn&#8217;t consider fixed line broadband and phone etc. BT&#8217;s CEO, Philip Jansen, has now suggested it would be &#8220;<em>impossible<\/em>&#8221; to totally removed Huawei&#8217;s kit from everywhere in under 10 years.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Senior broadband and mobile figures from UK telecoms giants BT and Vodafone have today warned cross-party MPs on the Science and Technology Committee that they&#8217;d need at least 5-7 years to fully remove Huawei&#8217;s kit from their networks, or &#8220;blackouts&#8221; could be a risk. 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