{"id":37133,"date":"2024-02-11T17:25:20","date_gmt":"2024-02-11T17:25:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=37133"},"modified":"2024-02-12T06:33:43","modified_gmt":"2024-02-12T06:33:43","slug":"virgin-media-uk-sniffs-deal-for-talktalks-consumer-broadband-isp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2024\/02\/virgin-media-uk-sniffs-deal-for-talktalks-consumer-broadband-isp.html","title":{"rendered":"Virgin Media UK Sniffs Deal for TalkTalk&#8217;s Consumer Broadband ISP"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ding, ding.. round two. News reports claim that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vm\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin Media<\/a> (VMO2) has allegedly revived its interest in a takeover of budget broadband ISP <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">TalkTalk<\/a>. But this time they\u2019re reportedly focusing much more specifically upon the internet provider&#8217;s consumer division.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The long-established internet and phone provider \u2013 home to almost 4 million UK broadband customers (2.4m on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttc\">FTTC<\/a>\/P) \u2013 is currently still trying to deal with the pressure from its existing debt pile, which involves selling off parts of their business (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2023\/08\/fitch-downgrades-talktalks-long-term-issuer-default-rating-to-b.html\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2023\/07\/debt-pressures-pushing-budget-uk-isp-talktalk-toward-breakup.html\">here<\/a>). As part of that, the provider is already demerging the group into three separate businesses (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">TalkTalk<\/a> Consumer, Business Direct and the Wholesale Platform) and cutting costs where it can.<\/p>\n<div class=\"bq2\"><strong>NOTE:<\/strong> Back in 2020 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">TalkTalk<\/a> became the subject of a <strong>\u00a31.1bn<\/strong> takeover by <strong>Toscafund<\/strong> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2020\/12\/broadband-isp-talktalk-uk-sold-to-toscafund-in-1-1bn-deal.html\">here<\/a>), which including debt valued the business at around <strong>\u00a31.8bn<\/strong>.<\/div>\n<p>The Business Direct division has already been sold to the company&#8217;s own shareholders for \u00a395m (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2023\/10\/isp-talktalk-sells-uk-business-division-to-its-own-shareholders.html\">here<\/a>), although they will probably continue the hunt for a third party to gobble that division (i.e. any proceeds in excess of the agreed \u00a395m would be passed back to the company). Meanwhile, the efforts continue to carve off their consumer and wholesale divisions, with hopes being pinned on raising cash through selling stakes in those businesses or even disposing of them altogether.<\/p>\n<p>According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/business\/2024\/02\/10\/virgin-media-revives-talktalk-takeover-as-cash-crunch-looms\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Telegraph<\/a> (paywall), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vm\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin Media<\/a> (VMO2) has now re-entered early talks with TalkTalk about the possible acquisition of its consumer division. Regular readers may recall that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vm\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin Media<\/a> was previously linked with a potential \u00a33bn deal to acquire the whole group in 2022 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2022\/10\/virgin-media-o2-uk-puts-possible-3bn-talktalk-merger-on-ice.html\">here<\/a>), but the operator allegedly got cold feet over market (i.e. debt markets were not as accessible) and regulatory (competition) concerns. Not to mention that many have questioned whether TalkTalk is even worth \u00a33bn, but a smaller deal for just their consumer division might be more palatable.<\/p>\n<p>The newspaper claims that TalkTalk is separately in talks with infrastructure fund <strong>DigitalBridge<\/strong>, which also backs full fibre alternative network provider <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/netomnia\" target=\"_blank\">Netomnia<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/youfibre\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">YouFibre<\/a>), about potentially selling a stake in its wholesale operations. TalkTalk allegedly still plans to then spin the consumer division out of the group following refinancing.<\/p>\n<p>At this stage there are still a lot of unknowns about how VMO2 might approach such a deal, particularly given the new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/nexfibre\" target=\"_blank\">nexfibre<\/a> wholesale division and the fact that TalkTalk tend to be much more of a lower cost brand than Virgin Media. Equally, such talks, assuming they do exist, might end up amounting to nothing &#8211; again &#8211; and there will no doubt be other interested parties (e.g. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vodafone<\/a> and investment groups).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, any deal would also represent bad news for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/openreach\" target=\"_blank\">Openreach<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/britishtelecom\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">BT<\/a>), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/freedomfibre\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Freedom Fibre<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\">CityFibre<\/a>, since TalkTalk is a major player on those three networks (they also work with some other AltNets, albeit to a smaller scale). But Virgin Media would no doubt seek, over time, to migrate TalkTalk&#8217;s customer base on to their new XGS-PON powered full fibre (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttp\">FTTP<\/a>) network. Suffice to say, competition concerns may still be a difficult factor to navigate around.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ding, ding.. round two. News reports claim that Virgin Media (VMO2) has allegedly revived its interest in a takeover of budget broadband ISP TalkTalk. 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