{"id":41836,"date":"2025-05-21T08:07:12","date_gmt":"2025-05-21T07:07:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=41836"},"modified":"2025-05-21T08:07:12","modified_gmt":"2025-05-21T07:07:12","slug":"private-roads-hamper-cityfibres-fttp-broadband-rollout-in-glasgow","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2025\/05\/private-roads-hamper-cityfibres-fttp-broadband-rollout-in-glasgow.html","title":{"rendered":"Private Roads Hamper CityFibre&#8217;s FTTP Broadband Rollout in Glasgow"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Member of the Scottish Parliament (MSP) for Eastwood, Jackson Carlaw, has warned of &#8220;<em>serious uncertainty<\/em>&#8221; over the ability of some areas in the City of Glasgow, which have been held up for years by the owners of private roads, to be connected to <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-71 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"cityfibre\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.cityfibre.com\">CityFibre<\/a>&#8217;s new 10Gbps capable Fibre-to-the-Premises (<a class=\"shortlink shortlink-110 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/fttp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"fttp\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/broadband_fibre_optic.php\">FTTP<\/a>) UK broadband ISP network.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>In case anybody has forgotten. <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-71 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/cityfibre\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"cityfibre\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.cityfibre.com\">CityFibre<\/a> is currently investing around <strong>\u00a3270 million<\/strong> to expand their full fibre network across the city, which at the last update in 2023 was still due to be \u201c<em>substantially completed<\/em>\u201d by the end of 2025. But some areas often get left until after the main deployment, and one of the most common reasons for this stems from the issue of private or unadopted roads.<\/p>\n<div class=\"bq2\"><strong>NOTE:<\/strong> CityFibre is owned by Antin Infrastructure Partners, Goldman Sachs Asset Management, Mubadala Investment Company and Interogo Holding etc.. The network is supported by UK ISPs such as <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-90\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vodafoneuk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"vodafone\">Vodafone<\/a>, <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-59\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/tt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"talktalk\">TalkTalk<\/a>, <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-144 shortlink-chref\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/zen_internet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"\" title=\"zen internet\" data-chref=\"https:\/\/www.zen.co.uk\">Zen Internet<\/a>, <a class=\"shortlink shortlink-86\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/bskyb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Sky Broadband\">Sky Broadband<\/a> (very soon) and many more, but they aren\u2019t all live or available in every location yet (technical reasons and exclusivity deals).<\/div>\n<p>Quite a few local estates and lanes fall into this bracket, which in the case of Glasgow is, for example, impacting local homes in the associated town of <strong>Giffnock<\/strong> at Egidia Avenue, Eglinton Drive, Winton Avenue, Arran Drive, Berryhill Road leading to Maryville Avenue and two blocks of flats at Hutchison Court etc.<\/p>\n<p>Local MSP Jackson Carlaw told the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.glasgowtimes.co.uk\/news\/25178480.concerns-raised-uncertain-broadband-upgrades-giffnock\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Glasgow Times<\/a> that the &#8220;<em>ongoing absence of the upgrades means they are continually experiencing poor internet connection and with significant dismay that the rollout is yet to reach their home<\/em>&#8220;. The MSP added that CityFibre&#8217;s most recent correspondence suggested that there is now &#8220;<em>serious uncertainty about whether the streets will be connected<\/em>&#8221; and he has thus complained about this to the operator, but it may not be entirely their fault.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bq1\"><p><strong>A CityFibre spokesperson said:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur teams have worked hard and brought full fibre broadband to hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses across Glasgow, Clydebank and Renfrewshire over the past few years and we continue to work through the operational and commercial detail of any further rollout plan to ensure it can deliver what local people need.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sadly, the issue with gaining permission to access unadopted roads (i.e. private roads, which are not maintained by a public authority) is not a new one, with many network operators across the UK running into similar challenges. Broadband builders typically need to secure a legal access (wayleave) style agreement, which isn&#8217;t always an easy, quick or economically viable process (although it\u2019s easier than it was in the past).<\/p>\n<p>The network operator first has to figure out who owns the road (historic ownership changes etc. can complicate things), then they need to make contact (details not always reliable) and, finally, come to an agreement &#8211; all of which may present challenges. The owners of such roads, assuming you can reach them, will naturally also have concerns (damage etc.) or may not want new infrastructure. In addition, they can sometimes also make unreasonable demands for payment, obstructing deployment.<\/p>\n<p>CityFibre and similar operators can raise disputes over this, but sometimes the number of premises involved is so small as to simply make it not worth the cost \/effort (i.e. the rollout becomes unviable). In that sense, the MSP might be more effective if he also put some pressure on the owners of such roads, while the residents could play their part by petitioning the property\/landowner to allow access &#8211; assuming they can actually contact them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Member of the Scottish Parliament (MSP) for Eastwood, Jackson Carlaw, has warned of &#8220;serious uncertainty&#8221; over the ability of some areas in the City of Glasgow, which have been held up for years by the owners of private roads, to be connected to CityFibre&#8217;s new 10Gbps capable Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) UK broadband ISP network.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":29206,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[418,56,38,89],"class_list":["post-41836","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uk_isp_news","tag-cityfibre","tag-fttp","tag-politics","tag-scotland"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@ispreview\/114544564524634968","error":""},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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