{"id":7904,"date":"2014-10-24T13:49:44","date_gmt":"2014-10-24T12:49:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/?p=7904"},"modified":"2014-10-24T13:51:02","modified_gmt":"2014-10-24T12:51:02","slug":"800-virgin-media-customers-pursued-internet-porn-piracy-lawyers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2014\/10\/800-virgin-media-customers-pursued-internet-porn-piracy-lawyers.html","title":{"rendered":"800 Virgin Media Customers Pursued by Internet Porn Piracy Lawyers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The\u00a0threat of &#8220;<em>speculative invoicing<\/em>&#8221; appears to have re-emerged in the United Kingdom after a long running, but not widely reported, battle between <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vm\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin Media<\/a> and London law firm Wagner &amp; Co resulted in the UK cable operator being forced to release the details of 800 customers whom are alleged to have shared &#8220;<em>illegal<\/em>&#8221; copyright content online.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Readers might recall that a similar tactic has been used in the past, with morally questionable &#8220;<em>law firms<\/em>&#8221; like <strong>ACS:Law<\/strong> and <strong>Davenport Lyons<\/strong> becoming known for their earlier distribution of threatening letters that demanded large cash &#8220;<em>settlement<\/em>&#8221; payments in return for avoiding the threat of possible court action.<\/p>\n<p>But few of those cases ever made it to court, with many recipients feeling &#8220;<em>bullied<\/em>&#8221; into coughing up, and those that did end up in court usually resulted in failure because of the inherent difficulty with connecting activity that occurred on a dynamic <strong>Internet Protocol<\/strong> (IP) address to a guilty individual.<\/p>\n<p>Internet addresses can be spoofed, redirected or become incorrect due to small timing errors in the tracking and ISP access logs. Similarly an IP address can reflect a network that&#8217;s shared between many users (e.g. business network, public <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/wifi\">wifi<\/a>, hotel etc.) and thus at best you&#8217;d only be able to identify the bill payer and they might not be the guilty individual.<\/p>\n<p>But last year a little common sense was injected into this practice after the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/link\/org\" target=\"_blank\">Open Rights Group<\/a> got involved in a similar case between <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/o2uk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">O2<\/a> and Golden Eye International [GEIL] (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2012\/06\/uk-high-court-clears-golden-eyes-internet-piracy-letters-for-o2-uk-users.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/2013\/02\/o2-uk-and-be-broadband-users-receive-goldeneye-piracy-letters.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), which targeted broadband subscribers who had allegedly shared copyright content online (this belonged to the <strong>Ben Dover<\/strong> porn brand). GEIL was eventually allowed to send the letters, although they were prevented from wrongfully asserting that the bill payer may be liable for any copyright infringement. Never the less, sooner or later, the demand for money will always surface.<\/p>\n<p>In the latest incarnation of this approach <a href=\"http:\/\/torrentfreak.com\/porn-piracy-cash-threats-to-hit-virgin-media-customers-141024\/\" target=\"_blank\">TorrentFreak<\/a> reports that four porn producers from outside of the United Kingdom have teamed up with Wagner &amp; Co, which incidentally has also worked with GEIL, to pursue <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vm\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin Media<\/a> for the details of <strong>1,400 broadband customers<\/strong> that are alleged to have shared adult copyright content online (<strong>Internet piracy<\/strong>). But unlike some ISPs <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/vm\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin Media<\/a> actually chose to challenge the request.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bq1\"><p><strong>A Virgin Media Spokeswoman said:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>We have contested the validity of Wagner &amp; Co\u2019s claims (on-going for 12 months), asking the Judge to thoroughly review the application and the supporting evidence. We have challenged the reliability of the software used to obtain evidence of infringement (FileWatchBT) and the accuracy of the data collected.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The original request was for double the number of addresses than we have been forced to disclose, now fewer than 800. We advise any of our customers who receive a speculative letter from Wagner &amp; Co, who also represented Golden Eye International in action against <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispreview.co.uk\/index.php\/go\/o2uk\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">O2<\/a> customers last year, to seek independent advice from organizations such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.citizensadvice.org.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\">Citizens Advice<\/a><\/em>.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The affected customers can probably expect to received two letters, with the first taking the form of a general notice that copyright infringement has allegedly been detected and demanding a response within 28 days or so. The follow-up letter would then focus on a negotiated settlement and failure to respond could result in the recipient being found liable. A sample letter, which is based on the one that GEIL used before, can be found online (<a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/shared\/bsp\/hi\/pdfs\/24_07_12_final_letter.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking, if you know or believe yourself to be innocent of the allegation, then it&#8217;s best to discuss the matter with Citizens Advice before responding. Systems like the one used above are based on the fact that most of those pursued will be too afraid to go to court and thus pay to avoid that and the embarrassment factor. But don&#8217;t be afraid to challenge an allegation if you feel it to be false, history shows that it&#8217;ll often cost the law firm a lot more money than they&#8217;ll get back to pursue such a case.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The\u00a0threat of &#8220;speculative invoicing&#8221; appears to have re-emerged in the United Kingdom after a long running, but not widely reported, battle between Virgin Media and London law firm Wagner &amp; Co resulted in the UK cable operator being forced to release the details of 800 customers whom are alleged to have shared &#8220;illegal&#8221; copyright content [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[480,86,46,90,475],"class_list":["post-7904","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uk_isp_news","tag-crime","tag-law","tag-internet-piracy","tag-p2p","tag-virgin-media"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.3 - 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