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dazmatic

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So I'm in the market for an upgrade router/modem to pair with the parabolics.

The VN007+ has been great, but I'm missing out on full aggregation of B3/32 & 1.

I've tried the NR5103E and whilst aggregating all the band's has been great, performance is so inconsistent, bouncing between 5-20Mbps upload during tests is unacceptable when I know the VN007+ is far more consistent, tower loading aside.

There are a few requirements.
1. IP pass through
2. Aggregating of B3/32/1
3. Minimum 2x2 MIMO - anything beyond that has no real benefit in my location.

Things that don't matter.
5G
WiFi

I'm potentially looking at and RBM33G and RM502Q or similar.
 
You acknowledge the limitation of your coverage and even with more kit the B3/B32/B1 issue may remain. My view is you already have decent kit for LTE+. What are the other providers like, things change?
 
You acknowledge the limitation of your coverage and even with more kit the B3/B32/B1 issue may remain. My view is you already have decent kit for LTE+. What are the other providers like?
Non existent.

To specify, the MF286D and VN007+ I've got currently only aggregate 2 non-concurrent bands. E.g. 3+32.

I tried the NR5103E to see if it'll do 3+32+1 which it does.
 
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@dazmatic are you looking at the rbm33g to use two modems or something else?
Well, 1 modem - I know the RBM11G will do much the same but most modems I've seen are m.2 of which you've then to find PCIE to M.2 adapters that work.

Unless of course I'm misinformed?
 
So I'm in the market for an upgrade router/modem to pair with the parabolics.

The VN007+ has been great, but I'm missing out on full aggregation of B3/32 & 1.

I've tried the NR5103E and whilst aggregating all the band's has been great, performance is so inconsistent, bouncing between 5-20Mbps upload during tests is unacceptable when I know the VN007+ is far more consistent, tower loading aside.

There are a few requirements.
1. IP pass through
2. Aggregating of B3/32/1
3. Minimum 2x2 MIMO - anything beyond that has no real benefit in my location.

Things that don't matter.
5G
WiFi

I'm potentially looking at and RBM33G and RM502Q or similar.
According to the docs my Huawei cpe Win can do that, since its Balong 5000 chip , I wonder if the Cpe Pro can do that, too, since it's same chip.

 
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NR5103E this morning. B3/1/32

Screenshot_2023-04-08-12-29-32-914_org.zwanoo.android.speedtest-edit.webp


VN007+ just now. B3/32

Screenshot_2023-04-08-12-30-33-613_org.zwanoo.android.speedtest-edit.webp
 
I guess pound for pound, there isn't much left to be had performance wise, so might be complete folly changing hardware 🤔
 
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B32 is download only. So the introduction of B1 is affecting upload?
Personally speaking, I wouldn't draw this conclusion as the aggregation of an additional band wasn't the major change.

As only one data point is available per router, the difference in upload throughput might not persist with repeated tests given the extended dip in the bad result. A different destination server might not show that dip or even a second or third test against the same server.

The major change is that the router, possibly modem, and possibly antenna usage (with a mixture of internal and external antennas, one cannot be sure) are different.

If both tests were on the Zyxel with B1 included and excluded for the same tower, one could be more confident in drawing that conclusion.
 
Personally speaking, I wouldn't draw this conclusion as the aggregation of an additional band wasn't the major change.

As only one data point is available per router, the difference in upload throughput might not persist with repeated tests given the extended dip in the bad result. A different destination server might not show that dip or even a second or third test against the same server.

The major change is that the router, possibly modem, and possibly antenna usage (with a mixture of internal and external antennas, one cannot be sure) are different.

If both tests were on the Zyxel with B1 included and excluded for the same tower, one could be more confident in drawing that conclusion.
If I remove B1 on the zyxel, B3 upload doesn't change, still lower than reasonably expected
 
Can anyone confirm if the MC801 can aggregate B3+1+32?
 
The first is from new 5G pole NB52036 (Banjo Island Cadbury Heath), the second is from NB1020 (Stonehill Hanham) which is B1+B3 only and aggregating B32 from NB6786 (Goose Green Siston).
 

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Further, I can also aggregate B20+1+3+32. I don't think it'll do B28+3+1+32. B28+32 is ok.
The above results are from T-Mobile versions of MC801A. I can't say whether there may or may not be band restrictions on Three versions.
The eagle-eyed may spot the ZTE logo in image 1 above. This is the device that I mentioned elsewhere that crashed and was reflashed with non-public firmware.
 
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The first is from new 5G pole NB52036 (Banjo Island Cadbury Heath), the second is from NB1020 (Stonehill Hanham) which is B1+B3 only and aggregating B32 from NB6786 (Goose Green Siston).
Thank you - this may serve as an alternative to the NR5103E.
Only issue is that the antenna ports are 5G only and I'd need to export the internal antennas to external SMA connectors and then work out which is 4G Main/Div but I'm sure that's already been documented somewhere.
 
The first is from new 5G pole NB52036 (Banjo Island Cadbury Heath), the second is from NB1020 (Stonehill Hanham) which is B1+B3 only and aggregating B32 from NB6786 (Goose Green Siston).
Highly doubt you're getting B32 from a separate LTE site...

Inter-site LTE was only briefly trialled in Manchester on Huawei, and it's never been seen since, and there are no signs of it ever coming in the UK.

If that really is the case, it would be Ericsson making a big push for it from the network side, but I really don't see that happening, let alone the trial taking place in an area near eNB 1020.
 
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