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Can't resolve jquery.com on Virgin Media

Well I am lazy 😄


TIL, ignore everything I have said 😄

fwiw, one of the main reasons I left VM was because of the issues with Cloudflare. Try downloading/uploading massive objects every day with 10% packet loss, it's not fun...
Kudos for "fixing" bidb :)
 
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Kudos for "fixing" bidb :)
Code:
curl -o "${DIR}/_build/js/jquery-3.6.0.min.js" 'https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.6.0.min.js'
echo "8fb8fee4fcc3cc86ff6c724154c49c42  ${DIR}/_build/js/jquery-3.6.0.min.js" | md5sum -c -
It's almost the same as using the CDN haha - I guess having a tool for finding internet which doesn't work well on one ISP isn't smart
 
On the "lazy" aspect of jQuery.

Firstly, a bit of a vested interest here, since some parts of ISPreview do use a little jQuery (e.g. mainly the forum, review system and polls on news articles), although most of the site is not dependent upon it (I try to avoid javascript, unless absolutely necessary).

But there are a few points to make. One is that most of the systems involved (forum, CMS etc.) are third-party, so if they include a jquery call then I'd tend not to mess with that unless it's absolutely necessary (risk of breaking things / unintended consequences).

In the case of this forum, the jQuery library is actually pulled via Google's server, so the issue above won't have had any impact. In other sections, such as the more bespoke parts of the site that are partly coded specifically for ISPr, then I've often chosen to load the library locally.

However, I don't like to load jQuery locally, because that puts extra pressure on the server (browser caching will mitigate some of that) and also creates an additional security risk as there will be a delay between bugs/exploits being spotted in the library and me updating said library locally. Keeping the call remote avoids that.
 
Well I am lazy 😄


TIL, ignore everything I have said 😄

fwiw, one of the main reasons I left VM was because of the issues with Cloudflare. Try downloading/uploading massive objects every day with 10% packet loss, it's not fun...
Does VM often have issues with cloudflare then? Use CF for DNS, and touch wood has been ok so far, only time was that recent nationwide outage.
 
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Does VM often have issues with cloudflare then? Use CF for DNS, and touch wood has been ok so far, only time was that recent nationwide outage.
I left them about 18 months ago. It was daily at the time, I'd really hope it has been sorted now but the issues persisted for months.

At the time I could prove it was happening to people across the whole country (it wasn't 100% of the people, and I have no idea what the pattern was as not all my neighbours had it), but it was so hard to actually get in contact with someone who cared.

Ultimately I did manage to get in touch with someone who was able to raise core network faults, which did seem to have some traction... but it kept returning.
 
On the "lazy" aspect of jQuery.

Firstly, a bit of a vested interest here, since some parts of ISPreview do use a little jQuery (e.g. mainly the forum, review system and polls on news articles), although most of the site is not dependent upon it (I try to avoid javascript, unless absolutely necessary).
(y)
But there are a few points to make. One is that most of the systems involved (forum, CMS etc.) are third-party, so if they include a jquery call then I'd tend not to mess with that unless it's absolutely necessary (risk of breaking things / unintended consequences).
(y)
In the case of this forum, the jQuery library is actually pulled via Google's server, so the issue above won't have had any impact.
This time, but it is leaking visitor data to google.

In other sections, such as the more bespoke parts of the site that are partly coded specifically for ISPr, then I've often chosen to load the library locally.
(y)

However, I don't like to load jQuery locally, because that puts extra pressure on the server (browser caching will mitigate some of that)
The Reviews page for example has 3MB and 40 files, do you think 80kB (30kB compressed) will have even a minor impact?

and also creates an additional security risk as there will be a delay between bugs/exploits being spotted in the library and me updating said library locally. Keeping the call remote avoids that.
Yes, but you are linking to a specific majorversion-minorversion.js, I don't think that file gets any updates, you will have to manually specify the updated file. Am I right?
 
Yes, but you are linking to a specific majorversion-minorversion.js, I don't think that file gets any updates, you will have to manually specify the updated file. Am I right?
They could still pull the version. That'd potentially kill any problematic executions.

Someone else pointed out earlier about the security risks of changes, and I think that's still valid, hence it being important to validate integrity.
 
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