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Cell mapping applications - discussion

There's been some Vodafone upgrade work taking place in this area and another red mast has popped up - There's nothing in this cell site location so location is wrong. Does it get fixed automatically or do users on this Forum carry out some updates?
Cellmapper users collect data and locate sites. If you look at the information for a site, you can see the person who located it if it has been located and anyone who has contributed to the site.

By the way, if the PCI matches with another site nearby, it generally means that's where it's located (and the old eNB might be decommissioned, it depends on when it's been last seen and whether Vodafone has left B20 on the old eNB for some reason which I've seen a few times).
 
Not sure if it's worth something to anyone, but if you map a 5G SA cell in NetMonster, the location will also show when you're connected to it on NSA. Makes sense but it's worth letting people know, did it on a site after n28 SA was mapped here.

I might go around and do this to all sites in the area eventually (but with no NR cell identity) since it's nice to know.

Shows NetMonster cells, one 4G and one 5G NSA cell with location details


Never mind, you can't do it without an NR cell identity
 
Not sure if it's worth something to anyone, but if you map a 5G SA cell in NetMonster, the location will also show when you're connected to it on NSA. Makes sense but it's worth letting people know, did it on a site after n28 SA was mapped here.

I might go around and do this to all sites in the area eventually (but with no NR cell identity) since it's nice to know.

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Never mind, you can't do it without an NR cell identity
I was going to say, I've mapped about 5 different cells on SA now but as for reference to where each one is based - I haven't been able to get an exact location.
 
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Hi Gary333,

Cellmapper will only show 5G Standalone when you select 5G in the filter.

5G Non Standalone still uses the 4G signal, that's why Cellmapper won't show any 5G unless you specifically select 5G, then it'll only show you the 5G Standalone masts.

The above grab shows O2's 5G SA in Glasgow when you use the filter. :)

Have I made it as clear as mud now? :rolleyes: :giggle:
Cheers :). How would you find for example which cell is hosting band n78 as cellmapper doesn't appear to list that under the 4G bands, but does appear in 5G. However as no SA then nothing is returned for band N78 on cells which have it (hopefully i make sense).
 
Cheers :). How would you find for example which cell is hosting band n78 as cellmapper doesn't appear to list that under the 4G bands, but does appear in 5G. However as no SA then nothing is returned for band N78 on cells which have it (hopefully i make sense).
You'd have to try and predict from the signal strength squares, you can filter it to show n78 (e.g. NRARFCN 633696 here).
 
Usual CellMapper taking its time to update, took like 6 hours on the 9th to update would not be surprised if it doesn't update until tomorrow
 
I think one of them that I located yesterday disappeared too (NB 534 I believe) and hasn't come back 😭
it had an NB of 360, the 3310 one I moved into the correct place is fine. Strange.

Not the first time that happened, it happened with a 5GSA cell too.

220120 I think was the gNB. Moved to "0" apparently, so it's likely gone forever, even though I placed it where I thought it should have been some time ago.

Fairly certain it was replaced by a new one with one of the recent trips I had out that discovered an extra Three 5GSA cell/mast.
 
I think I have found the problem. Any NB / eNB below the value of 1000 disappears, had it happen again with one that only has 3 digits instead of 4.

Maybe that's an issue they need to fix?
534 is showing up again, it doesn't disappear since like eNB 33 on Vodafone shows up just fine and I know NB 210 also shows up fine locally
 
Just started moving a lot of the 3G band 1's I moved earlier, it's hell to do but it looks messy the way it is right now, looked messy before anyways

I have no clue why they're in this region in the first place, it's all been London or Scotland/Edinburgh/Isles of Sicily

Edit: sweet, 360 has shown itself now
 
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Seems like the other 3G B8 cell I located has shown up, showed up late last night after I fell asleep. Kind of like one of the 3G B1's I've just moved into their actual estimated area (close enough to where it's supposed to be at least) as when I moved it into the north sea temporarily it disappeared

Strange behaviour nonetheless, when all the other 3G cells work fine, apart from the ones with NB's lower than 1000
 
I have to admit, since we found about the O2 cell ID trick, I've located about 200 odd sites and I'm in the progress of correcting ones in the 21718 3G LAC zone since they've been mapped previously but location has been incorrect.

Oh well, I think I've mapped 75% of O2 3G that I've ever ran into now, not sure about 2G.
 
CellMapper, NetMonster, etc, don't display info about the NR bands (eg: frequency) when in NSA mode on my S23 Ultra. They do on all other phones I've used.

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Just wondering if there's any way of fixing this or am I stuck with *#0011#?
 
CellMapper, NetMonster, etc, don't display info about the NR bands (eg: frequency) when in NSA mode on my S23 Ultra. They do on all other phones I've used.

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Just wondering if there's any way of fixing this or am I stuck with *#0011#?
Think it's a Samsung (Snapdragon) annoyance SOX, it's fine on my A55 (Exynos) but it was a no show on my S24 too.:(
 
CellMapper, NetMonster, etc, don't display info about the NR bands (eg: frequency) when in NSA mode on my S23 Ultra. They do on all other phones I've used.

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Just wondering if there's any way of fixing this or am I stuck with *#0011#?
@insertfloppydiskhere would likely be the best one who can give you a response to that, could it possibly be an update somewhere that's temporarily caused a mismatch?

Or would it potentially be a modem issue?

For me on O2 when NSA disconnects and reconnects it does temporarily (for about 3-5 seconds) show no bands although it's usually just N78 as I've rarely seen B28 on NSA although it does exist

If it also fails to show bands for me I find that the dBm glitches out temporarily too (some silly number like -2016805229dBm) even though there is signal. It does come back though, my guess is from switching off of NSA to then switch back.

I should probably state this is on the Motorola g34, however it uses snapdragon/Qualcomm.
 
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