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Hi i have 2 question i hope the members can help me,
is there anymore info when n3 area will get 900mbit ? i see a lot of work in n3 openreach,cf,optpus maybe wrong spelling many different isp but when i use the postcode checker its say my area is not live yet.
No, Just keep checking.

second question how will i get 900mbit if i live in a block of flats,from my knowledge every flat has to have a ont box,i know this because of 2 new builds in popes drive and shakespere road have ont in each flat
MDUs (multiple dwelling units) are different beasts and most ISPs will not cover them initially. One that does in London is Hyperoptic. If you are interested and your block of flats doesn't get good internet you could ask people in your block to register their interest: https://www.hyperoptic.com/help/registering-interest/
 
Many of CF's OLTs are contained in active roadside cabinets. They may also make use of BT exchange space but I have no evidence for or against that other than the presence of some BT exchange codes in their traceroutes.

From looking at rotues to and from CF subscriber IPs, and known ranges of CF OLTs/routers, it appears to me that there is a sensible degree of resilience built into their architecture. It's not uncommon to find OLTs connected via three or four paths to other OLTs (which may, admittedly, be multiple interfaces aggregated on the same physical route - but it looks like they aim for at least two physical routes from each OLT).

Their current deployment is I believe based on the Adtran TA5000 series, and given that they talk about 4000 premises per cabinet I suspect the TA5004 is frequently used, which offers 4x 10Gbps uplinks.

Routes tend to go from subscriber OLTs via a few more *acc* hops before ending up at an *agg* following which they end up in THN or LD8. I'd suspect that they do as much as possible on their own fibre or leased dark fibre from *agg* nodes to the core DCs. Leased lines may have made sense in their early MDU deployments but I doubt that is still the model.

Would be interested to know more about how they do it.
40gbit for up to 4000 clients? Wow
 
Hi i have 2 question i hope the members can help me,
is there anymore info when n3 area will get 900mbit ? i see a lot of work in n3 openreach,cf,optpus maybe wrong spelling many different isp but when i use the postcode checker its say my area is not live yet.
second question how will i get 900mbit if i live in a block of flats,from my knowledge every flat has to have a ont box,i know this because of 2 new builds in popes drive and shakespere road have ont in each flat
i hope for a postive reply …
you are best asking when you see an engineer but there is a lot of work going on in the area. One of my sites near Rectory Close which is down the road to Popes drive should be getting connection July /Aug. postcode checkers are generic tools and i dont know how fast CF update there one
 
you are best asking when you see an engineer but there is a lot of work going on in the area.
You're honestly not really.

In my experience, engineers have a very specific/defined job to do, which doesn't necessarily give them either an accurate or holistic view of the whole end-to-end picture of what's needed to enable a service.

The polite ones, usually are tactful enough to say something to keep the customer happy. Even though its not necessarily accurate.
 
You're honestly not really.

In my experience, engineers have a very specific/defined job to do, which doesn't necessarily give them either an accurate or holistic view of the whole end-to-end picture of what's needed to enable a service.

The polite ones, usually are tactful enough to say something to keep the customer happy. Even though its not necessarily accurate.
This is true.

The only exception I’ve had is during my roll out, where the area manager was alongside engineers and gave some intel into when things were going to go live and areas that were running behind. I laughed when he said CF were pushing for the street to go live that evening. At this point, the AFN wasn’t even fitted to the pole.

Sure enough, he was right and they rushed through the latter stages of deployment in many local roads.
 
new 3Gb link @N22. Im probably the first in the newly added area on a 3gb (or maybe any connection). Ive got the .2 IP in the .128 subnet :)
 
I spoke to some Openreach engineers in n13 / Palmers Green on Monday. They were responding to an issue where community fibre had pulled their cables through a duct and burned a load of connections further down the street. First it giveth etc.
 
I spoke to some Openreach engineers in n13 / Palmers Green on Monday. They were responding to an issue where community fibre had pulled their cables through a duct and burned a load of connections further down the street. First it giveth etc.
CFL seem to be doing a lot of work in palmers green / new southgate / barnet

 
Saw them in my neck of the woods as well (Enfield, EN2), pulling cables under the pavement... don't dare to hope yet.

Loads of Zayo work as well unclogging BT/OR ducts.
 
new 3Gb link @N22. Im probably the first in the newly added area on a 3gb (or maybe any connection). Ive got the .2 IP in the .128 subnet :)
FYI to others! Dead 631X ONT within 24 hours!

They gave me a service appointment 32 days later!!! (yes 32!!!) I called 20 times in the next 4 days and they came 6 days later.

So keep your existing line (VM etc.) for a good overlap! :)
 
FYI to others! Dead 631X ONT within 24 hours!

They gave me a service appointment 32 days later!!! (yes 32!!!) I called 20 times in the next 4 days and they came 6 days later.

So keep your existing line (VM etc.) for a good overlap! :)
sounds crazy, why so many issues with the 3gbps plan? i want to get cfl 3gbps when they build on our road.
 
sounds crazy, why so many issues with the 3gbps plan? i want to get cfl 3gbps when they build on our road.
It's a non-standard speed and tech, I think. It's not 1Gbps where the technology is super tested and mature, it's also not proper 10Gbps either.

Even if I'll be able to have FTTP in some future, I'll always keep a backup via 5G. I work from home and it's essential stuff works all the time.
 
sounds crazy, why so many issues with the 3gbps plan? i want to get cfl 3gbps when they build on our road.

It's the Adtran ONT's they're using, they are not very reliable. We've seen on this forum that multiple users have been told by installers from Community Fibre about various issues with the Adtran ONT's including:

1. We no longer use the SFP+ models because they are unreliable / cause problems.
2. one in ten (10%) of the ONT's we install fail within 48 hours, so call us if there are any issues with it.

It's all about these Adtran things. The 3Gb service does use normal 10Gb equipment end-to-end. The XGS-PON they're using is 10Gb rated, the ONT is 10Gb equipped with either SFP+ (which is 10Gb) or 10Gb Ethernet connectors.

But the unreliability of the box they install (the Adran ONT's) is the issue. I suspect they've gone with this supplier for cheapness. If you check on ebay there are sellers listing hundreds of units for sale at around £34-£50 each, these are the 10Gb models which should give you some idea of the cost of these devices.

I just wanted to clarify the above where I said the equipment is 10Gb end-to-end. The way they cap your 3Gb service is using traffic shaping at their end in software, but all the physical links from them to you are 10Gb certified, standardised and capable.
 
Saw them in my neck of the woods as well (Enfield, EN2), pulling cables under the pavement... don't dare to hope yet.

Loads of Zayo work as well unclogging BT/OR ducts.
Those Zayo works went past me in Whetstone. Looks like a pretty clear path down Russell lane, through Osidge and up Avenue Road towards Southgate and on.
 
It’s not the plan that has the issues but the chosen ONT. At least now they know it’s that so hopefully they move to something different in the future.
they are expanding faster than their internal processes can handle... But lets hope!
 
CF seem to be doing the physical build properly at least, a shame there are some minor things like no IPv6 available if you have a static IPv4 on the business products.
 
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