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Just got back from our holiday in Amsterdam. As I'm self employed I need internet access so we booked a flat which had a connection.
That was a UPC NL connection (cable) which ran at about 10 Meg down and 150kbps up pretty solidly. I am wondering if the package the place had, was the most basic package, my parents used to have that over here. Would make sense rather than paying for 200Meg for guests to enjoy.
We've been thinking about moving there for years and I suspect this time we'll make this happen.
Over here, unless you're in a cabled area, you have a choice of only one ISP or another company reselling the products of that ISP which has always been a huge problem in this country because there's no meaningful competition except in the pricing.
Now, at least Amsterdam has a cable network which is a lot more performant than a telephone network. I am also assuming rightly or wrongly, that Amsterdam doesn't have a "telephone network" as in copper pairs like we do, so just about everyone in Amsterdam might be able to expect a modern broadband service.
I also remember there was a project to run FTTP in Centruum (the central bit) and recall seeing photos but didn't see anything while I was there.
What surprised me was that, walking about, there is no evidence of any ducted network anywhere. Over here you'd expect to see dirty snaking lines along the pavements ("the mark of NTL"), indeed you look for it when buying a house to make sure it's there. The Dutch must be incredibly efficient and tidy, or, the network has been there for so long unchanged because it was OK to start with.
There are no poles, it's all underground, and incredibly neat and tidy. The only thing you do see are the cable DP boxes on the outside of buildings with multiple dwellings. Even businesses have the cable plumbed in.
Maybe there was a massive "replace all the pavement tiles" project forty years ago when the cable network went in. Hmm, maybe not.
Wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of what's going on over there as regards broadband. We'll be looking to live in the Centruum area (north west probably) if we can afford it.
Over here we have 25 Meg down and 48 Meg up. I can deal with slower upstream, maybe only 15 Meg would suffice, but could do with more downstream.
They have 4G now as we do, and it's great that they have a cable system not a phone system so they're already a long way ahead, and with 200 Meg down available it's all looking good - if that's "universal" across the city.
- Is it universal?
- Do you get some premises which haven't been ducted, so you're out of options?
- Will I have a choice of only one fixed line provider there, like here (there being UPC)?
- Anyone know what they're doing as regards fibre (wonder if the ducting is good enough to pull fibre through)
Thanks,
Mark
That was a UPC NL connection (cable) which ran at about 10 Meg down and 150kbps up pretty solidly. I am wondering if the package the place had, was the most basic package, my parents used to have that over here. Would make sense rather than paying for 200Meg for guests to enjoy.
We've been thinking about moving there for years and I suspect this time we'll make this happen.
Over here, unless you're in a cabled area, you have a choice of only one ISP or another company reselling the products of that ISP which has always been a huge problem in this country because there's no meaningful competition except in the pricing.
Now, at least Amsterdam has a cable network which is a lot more performant than a telephone network. I am also assuming rightly or wrongly, that Amsterdam doesn't have a "telephone network" as in copper pairs like we do, so just about everyone in Amsterdam might be able to expect a modern broadband service.
I also remember there was a project to run FTTP in Centruum (the central bit) and recall seeing photos but didn't see anything while I was there.
What surprised me was that, walking about, there is no evidence of any ducted network anywhere. Over here you'd expect to see dirty snaking lines along the pavements ("the mark of NTL"), indeed you look for it when buying a house to make sure it's there. The Dutch must be incredibly efficient and tidy, or, the network has been there for so long unchanged because it was OK to start with.
There are no poles, it's all underground, and incredibly neat and tidy. The only thing you do see are the cable DP boxes on the outside of buildings with multiple dwellings. Even businesses have the cable plumbed in.
Maybe there was a massive "replace all the pavement tiles" project forty years ago when the cable network went in. Hmm, maybe not.
Wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of what's going on over there as regards broadband. We'll be looking to live in the Centruum area (north west probably) if we can afford it.
Over here we have 25 Meg down and 48 Meg up. I can deal with slower upstream, maybe only 15 Meg would suffice, but could do with more downstream.
They have 4G now as we do, and it's great that they have a cable system not a phone system so they're already a long way ahead, and with 200 Meg down available it's all looking good - if that's "universal" across the city.
- Is it universal?
- Do you get some premises which haven't been ducted, so you're out of options?
- Will I have a choice of only one fixed line provider there, like here (there being UPC)?
- Anyone know what they're doing as regards fibre (wonder if the ducting is good enough to pull fibre through)
Thanks,
Mark























