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Consultation: Enabling mmWave spectrum for new uses

Lucian

ULTIMATE Member
We'll need councils to play much more ball if this is going to take off.
Mmwave however seems like a good candidate for street lamps installs given the small antennas and short range.
Fingers crossed.
 

hle13

Pro Member
My question is simply is mmWave only going to be available to certain phones eg iPhone 13s and Samsung Galaxy 22s etc or will any device capable of 5G be able to use the technology?
 

meritez

ULTIMATE Member
My question is simply is mmWave only going to be available to certain phones eg iPhone 13s and Samsung Galaxy 22s etc or will any device capable of 5G be able to use the technology?

Fixed Wireless Access will make a difference for home broadband
 

dabigm

ULTIMATE Member
I notice they do not go after bluetooth, weird that.
lets face it. these people ain't right .. (duh) but there's a quite vocal group near me (mostly elderly) who object to all plans for masts. Does each one of them have a mobile phone? yup. Local mayor is on the side of science, but I'm not sure I can say the same about the local council who reject 80% of mast applications.
 

bustedvans

Casual Member
My question is simply is mmWave only going to be available to certain phones eg iPhone 13s and Samsung Galaxy 22s etc or will any device capable of 5G be able to use the technology?
Only devices with a mmWave antenna. Iirc there aren't any phones sold in the UK which have it - the iPhone 12/13 for example only have it equipped on models sold in the US.
 

hle13

Pro Member
Only devices with a mmWave antenna. Iirc there aren't any phones sold in the UK which have it - the iPhone 12/13 for example only have it equipped on models sold in the US.
So basically only high model phones will have this facility?

Typical, should be available to all 5G devices not just a few
 

Lucian

ULTIMATE Member
So basically only high model phones will have this facility?

Typical, should be available to all 5G devices not just a few
We do not know if only high-end will have mmwave. I suspect it's going to be available on most handsets.
 

bustedvans

Casual Member
So basically only high model phones will have this facility?

Typical, should be available to all 5G devices not just a few
The antennas and chips required for it are pretty expensive. I know that the Pixel 6 with mmWave actually costs $100 more than the non-mmWave model.

Frankly before carriers start playing around with high-band it probably pays to have a low-band 5G network first.
 

meritez

ULTIMATE Member
So basically only high model phones will have this facility?

Typical, should be available to all 5G devices not just a few
Apple's decision to remove mmWave from the latest iPhone SE, made little sense. Apart from the fact they would have had to cut a window into the frame for the mmWave antenna.
 

Bubblesthefish6

ULTIMATE Member
My S20+ would have had mmWave, if it was the American version... This seems to go for Samsung, Apple and Google - the SM-G986U model is the SD865 mmWave American one whereas the EU SM-G986B model which I have is the Exynos [ugh] 990 Sub-6 Version
 

JitteryPinger

ULTIMATE Member
Can't immagine mmwave being available to public for use on mobile phones for quite a while to come to so not much to be worrying about in my oppinion.

Even then I can't say I would want my device using it, I can't immagine the power ecomony of it is very good at such high bands.

There's enough 5G spectrum knocking around at the moment for decent 5G networks to launch, but operators are still looking at utilising existing kit by the looks of things.

It will be interesting to see what operators do with their extra N78 spectrum they've yet to enable on existing network.
 
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