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Dole Offices Never Had These Jobs

now thats funny as hell... one thing that gets me tho is its still a job, yes it may not be the most decent of ones but at least its legal under the law...

what gets me is all these protesters, lets use the closing of post offices as examples..
3 local post offices to myself are set for closure now the closest has allot of protesters against its closure, when approached and asked how can they turn a loss into a gain (aka turn the £4m a week loss into £4m a week gain) no one could answer anything other than close down some other post office just dont close ours.. l was ashamed to say the least... now the point lm trying to make is the fact while both sides do have points something has gotta give somewhere, in this case the decision is based on morals.. basically taking ones cloths off for money can be seen as a type of prostitution however at least they are not getting pregnant!

another way to look at it based on morality, toilet cleaning.. who here sees this job as degrading? do you feel its degrading dealing with other ppls mess? hell l hate to say it but some ppl get off on that stuff and pay money for that too (sadly)!

what lm saying is its great to have high morals, but sometimes we the general public just dont have that choice, in the perspective of that ad yes it may not be the type of thing thats decent for advertising in such a place so where else can one advertise work? its much better than soliciting ppl off the street and its also better than cleaning toilets along with the fact that its an "advertisement" no one is forcing ppl to do it, the keyword here is choice.
 
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id expect they get more than that in tips... l just found out a bit more about it and it seems its an acquaintance (well another webmaster l know) who actually put the ad up...

l hang around a few communities based around webdevelopment sometimes you meet interesting ppl sometimes they pay you for work :p
 
I don't see how this is any worse than being a ¨strippergram¨ or pole dancer etc. Come to that is it any worse than working for Page 3 or the Sunday Sport ?

timeless said:
l hang around a few communities based around webdevelopment ...

Which communities are we talking about ? :hrmph:
 
not communities youll know ;) since the ones lm talking about are small groups of us who talk about issues relating to security and design its just that most of the members are adult webmasters... at best theres about 50 of us at one of the forums.
 
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£8/hr.. are they retarded?

No, but the kind of girl who has to resort to this kind of work would find it a fortune compared to the minimum wage they could expect stocking shelves, flipping burgers or mopping floors.

So in conclusion, yes !! they are retarded, they went though 11-12 years of schooling and failed to get good enough exam results needed for a decent job.
 
by all accounts the ppl who call others retards are retarded themselves or extremely lucky to be doing something they like...

l have no qualifications whatsoever, most ppl who dont know my past just place bias and words like you two have done however some have little choice to take up "any" kind of job to make ends meet, some couldnt go to school for fear of what new torture the little ***** would do the next day, in my case the only things l gained from school was 3 cracked ribs 8 fractures and broke my arm 4 times because asses didnt like me and l was easy to pick on.. and thats just skimming some of the things that happened to me at school, now l ask you "those of us who want to work, even try our hardest to learn new skills on our own just to make ends meet in this world.. do you think everyone has a choice on how they make ends meet?"

some ppl need a reality check... especially those who think they can get on their high horses and just put down ppl based upon qualifications, if like them to try a few months of manual labour and find out how hard it is to work your way up in a qualification driven world where regardless of how much someone wants to work they pick asses who would rather poke fun at ppl who are less fortunate them they are because not all of us ppl out there are the type who just sit there claiming dole money cheating the system.
 
I am sorry to upset you timeless, there are people who for one reason or another, leave school without qualifications through no fault of their own, but there are also THOUSANDS EVERY YEAR who walk out of school having not even learned to count, read or write competently and then expect to either sponge off of the state or get given a well paid job because they are "pretty".

£8 an hour is more than I currently earn, although I do this job for the enjoyment, not the money. If money was the issue I would still be an engineer earning £40 -£100 per hour; but it is a lot more than the minimum wage, which is the best many of these girls will get anywhere else.

You may have left school without qualifications Timeless, but you can always take those exams through your local college either full time or part time, the majority of the girls who will apply for these jobs think "bettering themselves" means winning the lottery or buying a new lipstick.
 
however now lm back in england l cannot afford to take those exams.. sadly lm at the point where altho l do have a job l can barely look after myself and afford the stuff l need, and altho ld love the qualifications l dont see GCSEs as the holy grail, while all knowledge is invaluable in my perspective l feel my time is best spent doing something or at least putting my foot in the door to something that will make me money...

on that point my insomnia helps, l pretty much spend most nights working on my personal websites (which are co-owned) and other times l even do commissions which makes up a reasonable amount to afford the net and other stuff l need, my offline work pretty much feeds me, however since l have very little choice on where l live at the moment lm saving and pretty much growing what l eat (which may seem strange to allot of ppl) however if l was taxed on what l got at this moment in time it would kill me, hence why l do it through my families records which means its hard to use references for work and in perspective of work l honestly want something better than farming before l consider my next job.

maybe lm just touchy on the subject tho hence some of my words, too many ppl tho these days have predefined opinions and lump all ppl as one regardless of how hard they work.

(on a side note: l left school at 12, l was forced out taking the blame for many things l had not done... sadly l was the person blamed due to the groups who used me as a punching bag.. my life may have been ruined by kids but things go on and lm going to either try make my sites earn me money and while doing that l'll work towards maybe working with hardware or some techy job.. until that day comes l dont have a choice but to do stuff that tbh is crap)
 
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How did you manage to leave at 12 ?? Unless you are 50+ years old it has been a legal requirement for either school or home education until the age of 16 for many years, and if educated at home the LEA would have sent inspectors to check you were being taught the curriculum.
Have you spoken to your local college ?? there are various funds available to help pay for courses and any material needed, the part time Degree I am taking has access to two different funding streams that will pay all but £100 of my course fees and give £250 for books etc, the college and university also have hardship funds which can be given to students who need extra help.
If there is a course you would like to take, but do not have the required GCSE's etc, look to see if there are other ways of qualifying as a mature student; technically I do not have the qualifications needed for the course I am taking, but after reviewing my work history and previous studies the tutors said I was more than capable of taking it.
Finally, the GCSE is so focused on the exam in most subjects that buying or borrowing the revision book will teach you enough to pass!!
The final option when applying for a job is to lie !!! I worked for Great Universal Stores for two years and in that time they never checked any of my references; HELL !! they never asked anyone employed to drive their lorries to produce a valid HGV or Drivers License !!!
 
Hell!! Our firm reckon it is a legal requirement that driving licences are checked annually.
 
While I was working for GUS a driver got stopped and when they asked for his license it turned out he had been disqualified for drink driving.
White Arrow, ( the GUS Transport arm) got in a panic and asked everyone to produce their drivers licenses and found a lot of people driving without a valid license; one HGV driver had been working for them for 20 years and didn't even have a provisional car license!!!!!
 
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How did you manage to leave at 12 ?? Unless you are 50+ years old it has been a legal requirement for either school or home education until the age of 16 for many years, and if educated at home the LEA would have sent inspectors to check you were being taught the curriculum.
Have you spoken to your local college ?? there are various funds available to help pay for courses and any material needed, the part time Degree I am taking has access to two different funding streams that will pay all but £100 of my course fees and give £250 for books etc, the college and university also have hardship funds which can be given to students who need extra help.
If there is a course you would like to take, but do not have the required GCSE's etc, look to see if there are other ways of qualifying as a mature student; technically I do not have the qualifications needed for the course I am taking, but after reviewing my work history and previous studies the tutors said I was more than capable of taking it.
Finally, the GCSE is so focused on the exam in most subjects that buying or borrowing the revision book will teach you enough to pass!!
The final option when applying for a job is to lie !!! I worked for Great Universal Stores for two years and in that time they never checked any of my references; HELL !! they never asked anyone employed to drive their lorries to produce a valid HGV or Drivers License !!!

because of the problems in my first school (l got hit by a teacher, no one believed me) they said l was kicked out in order to get me transport to my new school, which just happened to be a few more miles away than my old school full of yet more ppl who knew the asses who bullied me at school, after a year it was pretty bad, now while lm not the type of person ppl will pick on now those years were pure hell, however after being forced to leave my second school no others school would take me, all schools l approached refused to take me so l had little choice.

altho for the last year l was supposed to be at school l did get referred to something that gave me what they call a COE (certificate of education) was in a small caravan up in wales where the so called bad ppl were sent, the thing was ppl had a choice to do what they wanted, most of the time we were outside smoking (lve packed up and not smoked for 6+ months now) however all tho l never learned anything at the place any homework given l would complete even if it took me 6 hours the exams l took l passed with better results than some school leavers depending on the level they took, however at the time l didnt have a choice to go on as l went straight into work, which sadly closed down a year later, lve been technically unemployed for nearly 11 years altho lve managed to look after myself and afford what l need by doing odd jobs.
 
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