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Vodafone is unusable on large parts of the East Coast Main Line as well. Between Stevenage and Finsbury Park you will frequently find only 3G available, and it's so oversubscribed that nothing will load. EE by comparison even works in a lot of the tunnels.
I thought all 3G had been switched off?
 
More Edge on a Vodafone UK 5G plan in London. There’s a lot of Edge patches along the A4. The network flickers between Edge, 4G and 5G.
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More Edge on a Vodafone UK 5G plan in London. There’s a lot of Edge patches along the A4. The network flickers between Edge, 4G and 5G.
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I’m a London cabbie and the A4 from Earl’s Court out to Heathrow is awful, edge all the way out . To many other areas in London to mention where it’s constantly edge . Been with Vodafone years but it may be time to switch.
 
I’m a London cabbie and the A4 from Earl’s Court out to Heathrow is awful, edge all the way out . To many other areas in London to mention where it’s constantly edge . Been with Vodafone years but it may be time to switch.

Ah yes, Vodafone outside Zone 1... 😂

My friend is a minicab driver in London and uses EE. He moved to 1pMobile (also EE) when his iPhone contract ended. Seems to be good enough for Waze/Uber/some other app he uses and radio streaming.

Vodafone should have an edge (hehe) on calls at least indoors, but EE seems to be more reliable for 4G/5G data outdoors in the greater London area.
 
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I’m a London cabbie and the A4 from Earl’s Court out to Heathrow is awful, edge all the way out . To many other areas in London to mention where it’s constantly edge . Been with Vodafone years but it may be time to switch.
I’ve had exactly the same experience - my other half is on EE which is so much better along the same stretch of road. It’s not like it’s on Edge for a couple of seconds, it stays on for a long time!
 
Ah yes, Vodafone outside Zone 1... 😂

My friend is a minicab driver in London and uses EE. He moved to 1pMobile (also EE) when his iPhone contract ended. Seems to be good enough for Waze/Uber/some other app he uses and radio streaming.

Vodafone should have an edge (hehe) on calls at least indoors, but EE seems to be more reliable for 4G/5G data outdoors in the greater London area.
I would agree with this - EE outdoors in terms of real world usage is so much better compared to Vodafone for me - driving in from the M4 and then A4 towards Euston is giving mixed performance with a lot of Edge.
 
I know we shouldn't have to do this... but if you disable 2G on your phone (Android only) the vodafone experience is actually pretty damn good. Obviously vodafone still has a lot of optimization to do since the 3G switch off, but they'll get there.
 
I know we shouldn't have to do this... but if you disable 2G on your phone (Android only) the vodafone experience is actually pretty damn good. Obviously vodafone still has a lot of optimization to do since the 3G switch off, but they'll get there.
Which raises the question, if disabling 2G provides a pleasant Vodafone experience, why are the sims dropping down to Edge and staying there.
 
Which raises the question, if disabling 2G provides a pleasant Vodafone experience, why are the sims dropping down to Edge and staying there.
It has got to be something set up poorly‽

In my Samsung, Vodafone locked to 4G/5G is great but when I put the SIM in my iPhone it’s a frustrating mess.
 
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Which raises the question, if disabling 2G provides a pleasant Vodafone experience, why are the sims dropping down to Edge and staying there.
Realistically, vodafone want to ensure as a bare minimum you'll have a signal/service that can make and take a call successfully. They've got thresholds for switching down to Edge (which would have been 3G in most cases previously) that is a little too aggressive. If your phone dipped to 3G it wasn't that big of a deal as 3G was still really usable. But now the fall back isn't this, it's Edge (which although data does work fine for me to send a WhatsApp etc...) it's not the same thing and does give a modern day, data driven, awful experience.

It's optimization that's the answer. Every area will be different so thresholds will take time to amend. But think of it this way, the current Edge issues will only improve from this point. And yes, EE hasn't had these issues (at least I haven't seen it reported) but they have FAR more 4G equipped masts in comparison.

I know O2 have delayed their 3G switch off to next year, but I can't see them coming out any better than vodafone here regarding eventual Edge situations. So likely won't just be a vodafone issue moving forward.
 
Realistically, vodafone want to ensure as a bare minimum you'll have a signal/service that can make and take a call successfully. They've got thresholds for switching down to Edge (which would have been 3G in most cases previously) that is a little too aggressive. If your phone dipped to 3G it wasn't that big of a deal as 3G was still really usable. But now the fall back isn't this, it's Edge (which although data does work fine for me to send a WhatsApp etc...) it's not the same thing and does give a modern day, data driven, awful experience.

It's optimization that's the answer. Every area will be different so thresholds will take time to amend. But think of it this way, the current Edge issues will only improve from this point. And yes, EE hasn't had these issues (at least I haven't seen it reported) but they have FAR more 4G equipped masts in comparison.

I know O2 have delayed their 3G switch off to next year, but I can't see them coming out any better than vodafone here regarding eventual Edge situations. So likely won't just be a vodafone issue moving forward.
If it's optimization, it's broken.

If disabling 2G on an Android phone provides a pleasant experience, it highlights there is a 4G signal anyway - which confirms what I have seen myself. You would have no service otherwise.

The places I have seen it, I know for a fact there is a 4G signal available, the phone drops down to EDGE from 4G signal and on O2, there is a 4G signal.

EE have more masts than O2 and Vodafone but they have also been running a 2G/4G network in a lot of areas for donkeys years. I can count on one hand how often I saw 2G on EE in 6 years.

As for O2, who knows what will happen. They need to deploy a LOT of Band 8 and even then, they will not have the mast density EE have in a lot of areas.

I must say O2 have made changes recently, I don't see the 3G fallback anywhere near as much as I did earlier this year.
 
I'm currently at a location where Vodafone has no closeby masts and signal is typically very very bad... Edge would be the only thing here. But... Not only is my phone (S24U) clinging on for dear life to a 0 to 1 bar of 4G but it's actually working? No additional bands deployed here yet, just B20 sadly (O2 host) but clearly some improvements on the aggressive 4G to Edge handover here.
 
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I'm currently at a location where Vodafone has no closeby masts and signal is typically very very bad... Edge would be the only thing here. But... Not only is my phone (S24U) clinging on for dear life to a 0 to 1 bar of 4G but it's actually working? No additional bands deployed here yet, just B20 sadly (O2 host) but clearly some improvements on the aggressive 4G to Edge handover here.
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This is post the latest OneUI update btw... Do we know if Vodafone did any carrier updates in this? @TheWeeBear - You seem like you could be the right person to ask this :)
 
This is post the latest OneUI update btw... Do we know if Vodafone did any carrier updates in this? @TheWeeBear - You seem like you could be the right person to ask this :)
Well I'm afraid I never noticed anything different LordTaylor. 🤷‍♂️
@garetc might have noticed if anything's changed.
 
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