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I can confirm that the EDGE issue is not really an issue anymore, at least not in my part of the country (East Devon). Yes, it does drop to EDGE sometimes but only when 4G is poor which is what it's designed for
 
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Unless the 4G mast is saturated and it’s handing you off simply to ease the load.

That's not what is happening, I'm seeing it in empty rural areas. It's something to do with priorities or transmit power.
 
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If 2G is able to cover an area, there’s no reason 4G at an equivalent frequency should not exceed it.
Well, 2G is typically a lower frequency than 4G hence why it typically covers a larger area... But, yes if 4G is the same frequency than 2G then I agree it should hold on, but that's in laboratory conditions not in real life...
 
Well, 2G is typically a lower frequency than 4G hence why it typically covers a larger area... But, yes if 4G is the same frequency than 2G then I agree it should hold on, but that's in laboratory conditions not in real life...

But it isn't. Vodafone operate 4G on 800MHz and 900MHz. They only have 2G on 900MHz...
 
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4G power is lower to ensure everyone can at least make a call, even if your phone doesn't have 4G calling (so, e.g. you can still call 999). I imagine they'll turn the power up once 2G is off.

I believe phones drop to 2G when making/receiving calls if VoLTE isn't available?

Early this year my mum had some issues with Spusu as her phone wasn't on the "VoLTE/WiFiCalling" list and she would miss calls (phone was too show when switching from 4G to 2G, I think), but making calls always worked fine for her.
 
4G power is lower to ensure everyone can at least make a call, even if your phone doesn't have 4G calling (so, e.g. you can still call 999). I imagine they'll turn the power up once 2G is off.

But then they need to do something about priorities, surely if they know your phone supports VoLTE they can ensure you won’t use 2G unless there’s no 4G at all?
 
4G power is lower to ensure everyone can at least make a call, even if your phone doesn't have 4G calling (so, e.g. you can still call 999). I imagine they'll turn the power up once 2G is off.
I really hope they don't turn 2G off, the 3G switch off has been a disaster, if 2G is switched off then everywhere will have to ensure they receive a decent 4G or above signal.
I believe phones drop to 2G when making/receiving calls if VoLTE isn't available?

Early this year my mum had some issues with Spusu as her phone wasn't on the "VoLTE/WiFiCalling" list and she would miss calls (phone was too show when switching from 4G to 2G, I think), but making calls always worked fine for her.
Yep, my phone loose any type of data indication if I'm in a poor 4G area when I make a call.
 
But then they need to do something about priorities, surely if they know your phone supports VoLTE they can ensure you won’t use 2G unless there’s no 4G at all?
I think that's the idea, but the switch to 2G sometimes happen too early on i.e. there's a decent enough 4G signal to provide a phone call but it drops to 2G anyway. I think 2G should only be used if there is no 4G at all, but surely there has to be a line where the 4G signal gets weak enough to then switch to 2G, otherwise you are left with no service.
 
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That was my original point but in the areas I’ve been to where it happens, all the masts have 4G, hence my point about power or priorities.
Well, there must be a point to having 2G on a 4G mast, I guess as a fallback in case 4G goes off for whatever reason? Again, more people are likely to complain if they can't call compared to just no data.
 
I think that's the idea, but the switch to 2G sometimes happen too early on i.e. there's a decent enough 4G signal to provide a phone call but it drops to 2G anyway. I think 2G should only be used if there is no 4G at all, but surely there has to be a line where the 4G signal gets weak enough to then switch to 2G, otherwise you are left with no service.
On the other hand, at one particular location in Birmingham I had issues where the handover to an alternative technology (WiFi calling, 2G or even 3G when it was still available) did not happen quick enough. The 4G signal there was too weak for calls as the voice was cutting out while talking (although the call was still alive) but the phones (Pixel 6 and Galaxy S22) did not switch at all.
 
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