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Extend wifi to outside for Tesla and Wall Charger?

uknowiama

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A friend of mine is looking for help and wondering if can pull on experience and knowledge of you lovely people.
Friend has a basic FTTC setup from BT using their router. Just taken delivery of his Model 3 as a company car (originally May delivery - delivered in December). Needs wireless to reach the car and the wall charger has had fitted inside his garage. Garage is next to house. Car parked on drive infront of garage.
The wifi from the BT router won't reach far enough.
There are two AC sockets in the garage.
What would be best way to extend wifi?
I don't think network traffic could be carried over the power copper as garage will be on a separate circuit with MCB. Otherwise would suggest powerline convertors with wifi one in the garage.
My current thought is a wifi ap designed to be outside mounted on outside of house and cabled back into router?
Thanks in advance for advice / suggestions.
 
Powerline could work, really depends on the wiring, mine did not work but bought off Amazon so easy return. Cable from router to garage and AP on wall is what I ended up doing, well a router in AP mode as I needed cables to CCTV.
 
Powerline could work, really depends on the wiring, mine did not work but bought off Amazon so easy return. Cable from router to garage and AP on wall is what I ended up doing, well a router in AP mode as I needed cables to CCTV.
I have a new pair of Powerlines, not in use yet. I could check that.Could run a cable. There is an existing run for the 7KW cable, but was worried about noise and cross talk or can that be mitigated with the right type of cable?
 
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I have a new pair of Powerlines, not in use yet. I could check that.Could run a cable. There is an existing run for the 7KW cable, but was worried about noise and cross talk or can that be mitigated with the right type of cable?
It’s best to pull a cable then, ethernet cable (twisted pairs) is very good against interference.
 
I have a new pair of Powerlines, not in use yet. I could check that.Could run a cable. There is an existing run for the 7KW cable, but was worried about noise and cross talk or can that be mitigated with the right type of cable?
The lazy persons option is simply a pair of power line adapters. To be fair the car will periodically pull down an update around 600-800 Meg maybe every 2 to 6 weeks or so. Otherwise there’s very little / almost no traffic.

However run the 4-pair UTP cable in preference, as the most stable long term solution and stick a decent AP on the end. Maintain adequate segregation / safety distance on any parallel runs (30cm apart if you can, otherwise use metallic conduit or trunking), interference won’t be an issue, as noted.
 
you can get CAT 5/6 cable in B&Q and all the equipment you would need to put both ends on the cable in screwfix etc, wired house up a while ago (took me ages to get the first cable done properly though, it can get quite tedious), you can buy long cables with both ends on them already from amazon but that wouldn't have suited me
 
We have 4x TP-Link AV600 Powerline adaptors working on single phase power over multiple ring main circuits. They even work well on the end of a 30 meter mains extender reel when a WiFi AP is required in the garden.
 
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The lazy persons option is simply a pair of power line adapters. To be fair the car will periodically pull down an update around 600-800 Meg maybe every 2 to 6 weeks or so. Otherwise there’s very little / almost no traffic.

However run the 4-pair UTP cable in preference, as the most stable long term solution and stick a decent AP on the end. Maintain adequate segregation / safety distance on any parallel runs (30cm apart if you can, otherwise use metallic conduit or trunking), interference won’t be an issue, as noted.
568-A or 568-B? I can make UTP Ethernet cables. Probably what I would do and nicer solution. Not me going to do, so powerline would be easier I think if not necessarily best way to do.
 
568-A or 568-B?
Makes no odds. Just keep it consistent for all data points. Worst is when one person wires some rooms to A and and another person comes along (having done it ‘their’ way forever) and terminates other rooms to B. Or worse still, both ends are different. Recipe for unhappiness.

I’ve seen it done by “pros” 🙈
 
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Makes no odds. Just keep it consistent for all data points. Worst is when one person wires some rooms to A and and another person comes along (having done it ‘their’ way forever) and terminates other rooms to B. Or worse still, both ends are different. Recipe for unhappiness.

I’ve seen it done by “pros” 🙈
Was being a bit facetious with asking that :p
As you say, as long as same at both ends its all good.
Seen some shockers as well, when company you work for employ electricians to run and terminate the structured cabling. Do i get a report for each patch cabled through proving it works - no - just take your word for it? ok then.. were usually good lads but if a port didn't work - first thing check the pin outs either end.
 
Although I hate powerline a bit more than I ‘hate’ my Tesla 🤣. They are both means to an end. 😂
Although if I run the cable the once . am I going to have to do "less technical support"? Rather than have powerline adapters that occassionally need resetting? Or just hope plug in and do their job. :rolleyes:
 
Powerlines are good where its not practical to run a cable through and/or doing so may create a mess .
However if you are having work done then the cable option carried out at the same time would be a good choice
 
OpenWRT and illegally boost the wifi power :ROFLMAO:

just kidding, I've actually run a shielded twisted pair cable adjacent to a power line (about 15 cm from it to be exact). The outside power cable will be SWA which provides *some* shielding, and shielded ethernet cable works just fine. It's not ideal, sure, but it works. Alternatively, a cheap outside access point? I picked up a tp-link one for £10 on eBay for garden internet, only does 802.11g but it's fine for most stuff.

Not quite £10 any more :( but this is what I got)


cable i used next to a power line

 
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OpenWRT and illegally boost the wifi power :ROFLMAO:

just kidding, I've actually run a shielded twisted pair cable adjacent to a power line (about 15 cm from it to be exact). The outside power cable will be SWA which provides *some* shielding, and shielded ethernet cable works just fine. It's not ideal, sure, but it works. Alternatively, a cheap outside access point? I picked up a tp-link one for £10 on eBay for garden internet, only does 802.11g but it's fine for most stuff.

Not quite £10 any more :( but this is what I got)


cable i used next to a power line

I was leaning to a cheap outdoor ap on the corner of the house to provide coverage to outside and garage.
 
OpenWRT and illegally boost the wifi power :ROFLMAO:

just kidding, I've actually run a shielded twisted pair cable adjacent to a power line (about 15 cm from it to be exact). The outside power cable will be SWA which provides *some* shielding, and shielded ethernet cable works just fine. It's not ideal, sure, but it works. Alternatively, a cheap outside access point? I picked up a tp-link one for £10 on eBay for garden internet, only does 802.11g but it's fine for most stuff.

Not quite £10 any more :( but this is what I got)


cable i used next to a power line

You shouldn’t need to run UTP in armoured for any reason other than physical protection. The nature of UTP means that it’s immune to RF from most ‘normal’ sources.

I remember one of the large structured cabling vendors back in the early day used a 1000ft box of UTP and wound the whole lot around a fluorescent light fitting to ‘prove’ it’s immunity to common noise in offices etc.

It was a good marketing stunt if anything 🙈😎
 
PoE access point. 2.4ghz will go for some distance outside unobstructed
 
PoE access point. 2.4ghz will go for some distance outside unobstructed
Does not even need to go that far. Garage is right next door to the house. Is house and garage in suburbs of city in housing estate. I have experience with these, so would seem overkill to me - thanks for suggestion though (y)
 
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