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Fibre-optic circuit laying

Looking into backhaul at the moment - haven't had a chance to give it any time for a week or so.
 
I was talking to my parents about this the other day and their opinion seemed to be that there isn't enough demand for this.

I of-course entirely disagreed. What have others said?
 
Are things still moving on nicely?

I think I saw an Openreach engineer by the cabinet (Anchor) yesterday measuring something, perhaps how long it is from the old cabinet to the new fibre one?
 
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I think it was a shame to let this project essentially disappear.

I would like to take it up again.
 
This cannot be done now, because we have VDSL. The maths don't work any more. The area cannot be made attractive to any private investor to any degree. Upper Froyle has nothing at all (sub 2 Meg ADSL) but taken alone, it has too few premises to make it worth bothering with.

Sadly, I suspect that VDSL is here to last a couple of decades at least.

The Openreach guys have been out to the pole outside with a cherry picker twice now. "I've changed the dropwire and it's still not fast enough for...(deleted last part)", "Is it knackered" and "it's the loop that's the problem" were words that drifted through the window since the pole is directly outside. (Not our connection)

Er, yes, I might have suggested that the circa 1.8km (D side) of knackered old copper or aluminium is to blame for poor broadband speeds and you could probably have got to that without spending something like five 'man' days on it ;) which would have been more usefully spent stringing fibre between the poles to get it somewhere near the centre of the village. As in: near most of the properties.

I do have some quite detailed planning for how a FTTP network would be routed in the village. Wayleaves are unlikely to be an issue. The cost is respectable for rural since the area is largely just two roads with the houses at the sides. Backhaul is the biggest issue which in turn means that providers want to see larger areas to cover to make it worthwhile and the VDSL rollout has killed it. It is not now possible, for instance, to reach the lane we live in with superfast speeds, nor Upper Froyle, nor the houses in Bentley nearest the A31 a long way from the cab, and so on.

But with 4G speeds of 50 up and down which may well see improvements, and VDSL speeds of - I'd guess - between about 10 and 76 down - Lower Froyle is actually fairly well served for superfast speeds now, years ago with only 3G here we struggled hence my getting involved, but now we have a super quick connection that just works so it doesn't impact us so much.

As it turned out while the majority of the village thought that current speeds were inadequate, absolutely nobody, not one single person, actually volunteered to help with a broadband project. And many will be very happy with their VDSL speeds. If you've never had 4G or cable then even seeing the dizzying highs of 15 Meg down seems remarkable and correspondingly the desire to have 1000MB or better takes a nose dive.

What will be interesting is to see what happens in Upper Froyle and the effect on property sales in the new development given that it doesn't have access to fixed line broadband (sub 2 Meg) nor is it on the LA's deployment map. VDSL would almost certainly include the plot. So I wonder what Upper Froyle may get, if anything.
 
Hopefully FTTPoD prices will fall soon as G.Fast is rolled out. Then we'll hopefully subscribe to that.
 
You couldn't get a much more straightforward FTTP installation. Roughly, what, 500m (?) all overhead apart from a very short section. Shouldn't take more than a day, should it.

Though it depends on where the "aggregation node" is since that's what it connects to. If it's near the cabinet then 500m (£1000 to £2000 perhaps?). The On Demand service was suspended, nobody can order it at the moment. But the option of same was touted as a possible solution to distance based issues with the BDUK projects delivering unsatisfactory speeds, so it ought to come back at some point and you're an ideal candidate for a low cost install.
 
Gigaclear's sub-contractors managed to do around 1300 premises in our village in something like 10 weeks, and that's around 75% hard dig too. Quite impressive. The reward is that 2/3 people in our village now have access to FTTH (around 30% take up), the other 1/3 still have access to FTTC via BTw which went live exactly the same time, almost to the day (thus potentially jeopardising the other 700 or so premises on a FTTH rollout to complete the village).

The GC backhaul is via C&W (Vodafone) here, and speeds are epic, faultless across the network. Not sure how FTTC is comparing at the moment to be honest over that copper/fibre network, but the main thing is people in our village are now getting a 'better service level' than the old copper lines and unto 8Mbps service. We've gone from 8Mbps to 1000Mbps in 12 months, and the average from 3-4Mbps to 24Mbps+

Glad you got your situation sorted in some way, certainly sounded like an interesting project to undertake!
 
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