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Spike.

I have DECT hubs (one in use and two spare). I tested the range yesterday and it is inadequate. I know they don't use broadband to communicate to the handset but they do use it to pick up the SIP calls. That is the point I am making.

EDIT. We live in a London flat which is small compared with where many of our out of London friends live. We have a phone socket in our spare bedroom and it often is used by friends staying the night.

When I experimented yesterday a handset linking by DECT to a DECT hub next to our router was out of range. To solve that problem I would need to provide a broadband socket in the spare bedroom and buy a Voip phone - or get one of Meatball's chums to come in and implement Voice Reinjection thereby. Not a hard decision to take!

And yes, I know about DECT extenders. I have one and adding them reduces the number of extensions the hub can support.
 
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To add to @spile post. DECT handsets are optimised for the transmission of voice, therefore far, far better than WiFi for standby/call time on the handsets, better range, interoperability between makes of base and handset using GAP (albeit limited feature richness but the call basics are fine) the ability to roam between DECT bases etc. stable and mature tech.
 
When I experimented yesterday a handset linking by DECT to a DECT hub next to our router was out of range.
I have found the best optimal results for DECT reception aren’t necessarily aligned with that of WiFi. It’s one of the reasons I prefer to have discrete elements in my home networks - a few more boxes but can improve matters and means elements can be moved, changed, upgraded discretely. I’m amazed how far I can successfully get a DECT signal reception where WiFi reception literally falls off a cliff edge, especially 5 GHz band WiFi. Judicious positioning of a DECT base can work wonders
 
Agreed Pheasant. When it connects it is brilliant. Our DECT hub is positioned where we want it. It feeds all our rooms, except the spare bedroom, with phone calls. It picks up our two mobile phones, by bluetooth, that live on our desks. But note the use of 'where we want it'.

If we were forced to put it near the broadband input and router this is what would happen to our handsets and it would not find the mobile's bluetooth.

DECT.webp


I took that photo ten minutes ago.

Easy fix. Voice Reinjection.
 
Good reminder Al-T.

Living in a block of sixty flats, built around 1900 and with telephone (extension) cabling not much fresher, I guess it would be the make or break when someone like Hyperoptic pitch for full fibre.

Most of us are 'of a certain age'. We are not families requiring ultimate broadband speeds. Our focus is on something that works reliably at a price that stops us feeling ripped off. If part of the price was the thought that none of our existing phone extensions worked I reckon the vote would be let's not to bother so the company making the pitch would be shown the door.

The ISP that told OR they must give us Voice Reinjection would be the one that got the sixty contracts.
 
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I'm in this position having ceased my landline and wanting voice re-injection.

I didn't want to follow the "AAISP recommendation" since it seems a bit complicated, not reversible (without buying a new faceplate) and also in my case, the extensions wiring to my master socket faceplate is very awkward with little slack cable for the extensions left by the builders. (I remember it took me ages trying to connect it up and felt like de-fusing a bomb).

The solution I've adopted to isolate the incoming land-line is simply to wrap the male BT-plug on the faceplate that mates with the test socket in a couple of layers of insulating plastic from a clear plastic bag. Then put the faceplate back on but only minimally tightening the screws so it doesn't pierce the insulation. Seems to work a treat - no dial tone on any of the extensions and ready for VOIP when my landline service terminates.

All fully reversible by simply removing the plastic.
 
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Interesting beamrider.

Are you getting broadband to your router from landline socket?

Are you getting voice re-injection?

Tony
 
@Tony Gamble

My broadband is now FTTP so straight from the Open-Reach ONT to the router, the master-socket is no longer involved.

I'm waiting for the activation from sip-gate before trying the VOIP. I can't see why there would be any issues though, as it's basically just extension wiring connected to the router and isolated from the BT network.

I'll post confirmation here though when it's all in place.
 
Beamrider

Does that mean you take the telephone feed from the router and connect it into the old master socket that serviced all the extensions in your home? That's what I think of when I hear the words voice re-injection.

Tony
 
Beamrider

Does that mean you take the telephone feed from the router and connect it into the old master socket that serviced all the extensions in your home? That's what I think of when I hear the words voice re-injection.

Tony
Hi Tony - you should be able to feed it back into the extension wiring at any point (socket), as all sockets are wired together in parallel.

The important thing is to disconnect the old/existing incoming pair fully (at the master) before you do so.
 
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I'm in this position having ceased my landline and wanting voice re-injection.

I didn't want to follow the "AAISP recommendation" since it seems a bit complicated, not reversible (without buying a new faceplate) and also in my case, the extensions wiring to my master socket faceplate is very awkward with little slack cable for the extensions left by the builders. (I remember it took me ages trying to connect it up and felt like de-fusing a bomb).

The solution I've adopted to isolate the incoming land-line is simply to wrap the male BT-plug on the faceplate that mates with the test socket in a couple of layers of insulating plastic from a clear plastic bag. Then put the faceplate back on but only minimally tightening the screws so it doesn't pierce the insulation. Seems to work a treat - no dial tone on any of the extensions and ready for VOIP when my landline service terminates.

All fully reversible by simply removing the plastic.
Just following up on this.

My porting is now complete and I can confirm that the above works fine. VOIP is now active on all extensions.

To repeat, it's essential to isolate the BT copper line, particularly as in my case, it still seems to present a dial tone after porting (although all numbers come up as unobtainable). I'm not sure if this will eventually stop.
 
I'm not sure if this will eventually stop.
3 years on and dial tone is still there, never tried but it may take 999 calls. FTTP in next few months via a duct on a different route so will just disconnect the line at the CSP at bottom of wall and remove the stupid loose cable they draped over the guttering with no clips.
 
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Keeping unused phone lines powered (-48v) was a common way of avoiding junction contact corrosion. 17070 might reveal the new number.
 
If a line has just been ceased and assuming the line or number are reassigned the number that the line used to have can usually be got from a 17070. How long it hangs around depends on whether the copper pair is needed elsewhere locally or the number is reassigned to another customer (which usually doesn't happen for at least 6 months).

If you port the number the line usually goes blank as far as 17070 is concerned.
 
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