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FTTPod Full Survey vs Desktop Survey rates?

Anth

Member
I am starting this topic to ask for people to please post if they get an actual full survey carried out what the price is compared to the estimated desktop survey.

I ask as in January of this year I was estimated £2600 build costs. A Price that was reasonable and would (and should) have taken up. But I foolishly waited for the end of the rainbow Februaty 1st price change. And now I am quoted £20,600 costs.

The suggestion is you can take a £250 + VAT gamble and see what you get in actual costs to see if it matches the first or second build cost. But its an expensive roll of the dice.

I am really curious if people get the full survey done how the prices match up with the new February 1st desktop survey. I suspect many others are too. Hence why I started this topic to ask those who do to please post their results here.
 

ManOfMeans

ULTIMATE Member
I doubt it would be anywhere near the pre Feb prices, just my opinion but the old FTTPoD build prices was way too good to be true knowing how much it costs to run in fibre for things like EAD.

Your lucky its at 20k, most people are being quoted almost 40k from what I have seen.
 

Mark.J

Administrator
Staff member
ISPreview Team
I suspect there won't be too many answers to this question, at least not for a little while longer. The new prices only came in during Feb 2018 and anybody who decides to proceed (likely to be less after the true costs became less) will then need to wait a bit longer to get the full survey quote done. This will reflect only a small number of orders.

However I am still talking to ISPs about the on-going FTTPoD costs and one in particular is being extremely helpful. Hopefully a little later this year we might have enough data to actually answer the final survey question.
 

DazaMc

Member
In the long term FTTPod will work out much cheaper. I have my fingers crossed that it will come in a good bit less than £21800.
 

ManOfMeans

ULTIMATE Member
Not just an opinion, but generally fact. You can easily get 100/100, fully managed, over 3 years, for circa 5k a year with free install, complete with 5 or 6 hour SLAs.
For the 22k install price and then the 3 year subscription on the OR prices its prob more like 24-25k? Over 3 years that could easy pay for a 500 meg line depending where it is in the country?

FTTPoD really is being priced out of normal residential customers reach and the small businesses market to protect the OR EAD circuit market.
 

Mark.J

Administrator
Staff member
ISPreview Team
A lot of FoD packages can be taken with 12 month terms now, which means that after the first year the customer can at least swap to a vanilla FTTP service at a fairly cheap rate from BT, Zen, iDNET, Freeola etc.
 

ManOfMeans

ULTIMATE Member
A lot of FoD packages can be taken with 12 month terms now, which means that after the first year the customer can at least swap to a vanilla FTTP service at a fairly cheap rate from BT, Zen, iDNET, Freeola etc.
Is it not a 3 year contract with OR any more?
 

DazaMc

Member
I'm going with Cerberus, they have a one year contract £100 per month plus VAT. After a year it drops to £50 per month. I'm located a mile
from a small village
in the countryside of Northern Ireland.
 

Jim Weir

Casual Member
Very few Ethernet circuits will be delivered for free install at a similar location to a FoD order with a £8K+ construction charge - so FoD will always come out cheaper I'm afraid.

For example FoD £100 per month / 12 months + £8k install before voucher
then ~£50 / month onwards.
EAD ~£400 per month / 36 months + ECC or ~£700 per month / 36 month spreading the ECC over contract term

If FoD has an install charge then the EAD to the same location will have ECC. Very rarely will a TNode be closer than the NGA Agg Node in most areas and the build cost is similar, the difference being any ECC on the ethernet tail upto £2800 will be absorbed, while FoD will discount for other prem passed.

The only way to compare is to complete a FoD Order Survey (£250) and progress an EAD order to survey. The headline Ethernet quote is never the full story.
 

Mark.J

Administrator
Staff member
ISPreview Team
Is it not a 3 year contract with OR any more?
They dropped that when the pricing was revised, so a number of ISPs have adopted 12 month FoD terms. Of course providers can still ramp up the cost elsewhere to compensate, such as in higher rentals.
 
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