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Help needed with setting up internet around the house

The question I have is that, I’m stuck in connecting to the internet and wiring my printer.

My current setup is 1 HH5 downstairs and along with BT Mini Wi-Fi Home Hotspot 600 Multi Kit + 1 extra wireless hotspot.
Connected in the master socket, the HH5 sits in the cupboard in the middle of the house. I have my powerline extender plugged next to it.
1st hotspot is in the 1st floor, towards the front if the house as the signal was a bit weak there.
2nd hotspot is on the 2nd floor towards the back of the house where my printer is connected.
3rd is in the annex.
They all work fine but the speeds are slow on wireless and I have a lot of drop outs. It’s a large house.

The house is network cables running in it. I have my network cables plugged into a Netgear GS116. The annex and 2nd floor aren’t networked, so I will still have to run a powerline extender. I’m planning to change the BT powerline extenders to TP-LINK TL-PA8010P. It’s a twin pack. They are non-Wi-Fi and I was hoping to plug them into an access point on the other end.

I have a HG612 which I plan to unlock and I have 3 HH5 altogether.

In the living room I plan to run a HH5 as an access point as I have a network point. Here I will connect the TV, PS4 and Sky box through network cable to the HH5. This should be providing the enough Wi-Fi coverage for that side of the house.

In the annex I plan to run a HH5 as an access point connected through the powerline adaopter, where I will connect the TV, Desktop computer and Sky box through network cable in the HH5. This should be providing the Wi-Fi coverage for the annex.

The question I have is that, I’m stuck in connecting to the internet and wiring my printer.

Do I connect HG612 and a HH5, with Wi-Fi disabled and plug a network cable to the Netgear Switch and one plugged to the powerline adapter? My thinking being that too many Wi-Fi routers will cause interference even if they are on separate channels.
Or
Connect the unlocked HG612 as a 2 port modem router? Connect both ports into the switch. Not sure if that is possible, but I am looking into it?
Or
Getting a billion 8800nl? And connecting a network cable to the Netgear Switch and one plugged to the powerline adapter.

And when it comes to the printer, I’m not sure if I should buy a range extender with a single port like the Netgear WN3000RP
Or
Getting a 3rd powerline extenders TP-LINK TL-PA8010P and connecting it through that. The only downside I hear is that adding another powerline reduces the bandwidth.

I’m a bit of novice so please bear with me. Thanks all.
 
Wow.. that sounds perhaps needlessly complicated :)? Reading through it's a bit like trying to solve one of those old math "problems" from school, which is difficult to understand unless you're the one who wrote it. Personally I'll always favour simplicity in any network design.

Too many routers might also be a headache for your network to figure out which way is up (in some cases it might be better to setup the slave router IPs manually and switch off automatic features like DHCP, but this can get very fiddly) and why is the primary HH5 sitting inside a cupboard? It needs to be out in the open if you intend to use WiFi.

Personally I'd rather have one router and a bunch of combined Powerline / Wi-Fi extender adapters with Ethernet LAN ports on the bottom or top. At least then you only have one router to worry about. In my own house I got around a lot of this dilemma by dropping an Ethernet cable down a space in our cavity wall from the roof, drilling through to grab it and then connecting up to a combo WiFi/Powerline adapter.
 
i would personally have 1 router and not be worried about anything else.

The problem I'm facing is that the printer doesn't have wifi, just an ethernet port and it all the way upstairs and the annex has no network point.

The main BT socket is in the cupboard. The network cables are terminated there and plugged in the switch.

could the drop outs be caused be power line adaptors?

here are some bad drawing, hopefully they will make some sense.

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On drop outs, could you post your router stats as that may indicate where the problem is coming from. I would think it unlikely to be the fault of powerline / homeplug adapters though, especially if they're of the modern AV500 or faster variety that have plenty of shielding and control to avoid causing such issues.

One way or another, if you want to connect that printer, then you're probably going to have to use your property's power cables to transmit the Ethernet and / or boost WiFi. But if you can get WiFi to the area then you could always use a WiFi to Ethernet bridge adapter. I think something like this might work, so long as there's a USB port nearby to provide the power:

http://amzn.to/2bCd7Tp

But certainly having your router in a cupboard won't be helping any of this and with three floors the ideal location would be somewhere on the 1st floor, but then it's a question of how much broadband speed you might lose in connecting to an extension vs master socket.
 
11:33:24, 19 Aug. ( 2597.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:33:24, 19 Aug. ( 2597.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- 6f8 IP: 192.168.1.96 MAC: 00:07:26:b7:86:f9
11:33:24, 19 Aug. ( 2597.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- d18 IP: 192.168.1.89 MAC: 00:07:26:b6:dd:19
11:33:24, 19 Aug. ( 2597.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- d14 IP: 192.168.1.84 MAC: 00:07:26:b6:dd:15
11:33:24, 19 Aug. ( 2597.860000) Device disconnected: Hostname: PS4- e8- 61- 7e- 7d- 06- f5 IP: 192.168.1.73 MAC: e8:61:7e:7d:06:f5
11:33:24, 19 Aug. ( 2597.860000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Mamoonas- iPad IP: 192.168.1.72 MAC: e4:8b:7f:46:71:52
11:33:22, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:33:22, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:33:10, 19 Aug. IN: BLOCK [12] Spoofing protection (IGMP 192.168.1.254- >224.0.0.22 on eth1)
11:32:54, 19 Aug. ( 2567.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: SaadWaseem- PC IP: 192.168.1.103 MAC: 08:00:27:3e:34:c6
11:32:54, 19 Aug. ( 2567.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:32:54, 19 Aug. ( 2567.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- 6f8 IP: 192.168.1.96 MAC: 00:07:26:b7:86:f9
11:32:54, 19 Aug. ( 2567.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- d18 IP: 192.168.1.89 MAC: 00:07:26:b6:dd:19
11:32:54, 19 Aug. ( 2567.860000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- d18 IP: 192.168.1.89 MAC: 00:07:26:b6:dd:19
11:32:54, 19 Aug. ( 2567.860000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- d14 IP: 192.168.1.84 MAC: 00:07:26:b6:dd:15
11:32:49, 19 Aug. ( 2562.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: SaadWaseem- PC IP: 192.168.1.103 MAC: 08:00:27:3e:34:c6
11:32:49, 19 Aug. ( 2562.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:32:49, 19 Aug. ( 2562.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- 6f8 IP: 192.168.1.96 MAC: 00:07:26:b7:86:f9
11:32:44, 19 Aug. ( 2557.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: SaadWaseem- PC IP: 192.168.1.103 MAC: 08:00:27:3e:34:c6
11:32:44, 19 Aug. ( 2557.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:32:44, 19 Aug. ( 2557.870000) Device disconnected: Hostname: BT- Mini- WiFi- Home- Hotspot- d18 IP: 192.168.1.89 MAC: 00:07:26:b6:dd:19
11:31:34, 19 Aug. IN: BLOCK [12] Spoofing protection (IGMP 86.141.212.188- >224.0.0.22 on ppp1)
11:31:10, 19 Aug. IN: BLOCK [12] Spoofing protection (IGMP 192.168.1.254- >224.0.0.22 on eth1)
11:30:38, 19 Aug. ( 2432.260000) Port forwarding rule added via UPnP/TR064. Protocol: UDP, external ports: any- >40959, internal ports: 40959, internal client: 192.168.1.75
11:30:34, 19 Aug. ( 2428.170000) Port forwarding rule deleted via UPnP/TR064. Protocol: UDP, external ports: any- >40959, internal ports: 40959, internal client: 192.168.1.75
11:30:30, 19 Aug. ( 2423.980000) Port forwarding rule added via UPnP/TR064. Protocol: TCP, external ports: any- >40959, internal ports: 40959, internal client: 192.168.1.75
11:30:25, 19 Aug. ( 2419.430000) Port forwarding rule deleted via UPnP/TR064. Protocol: TCP, external ports: any- >40959, internal ports: 40959, internal client: 192.168.1.75
11:29:32, 19 Aug. IN: BLOCK [12] Spoofing protection (IGMP 86.141.212.188- >224.0.0.22 on ppp1)
11:29:03, 19 Aug. IN: BLOCK [12] Spoofing protection (IGMP 192.168.1.254- >224.0.0.22 on eth1)
11:29:01, 19 Aug. ( 2335.030000) Device disconnected: Hostname: SaadWaseem- PC IP: 192.168.1.103 MAC: 08:00:27:3e:34:c6
11:29:01, 19 Aug. ( 2335.030000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:29:00, 19 Aug. ( 2334.250000) Host Saads- Air (MAC 64:76:ba:a4:7e:cc) using IP 192.168.1.75 detected on interface ath00, port - 1
11:28:58, 19 Aug. ( 2332.730000) Port forwarding rule added via UPnP/TR064. Protocol: UDP, external ports: any- >40959, internal ports: 40959, internal client: 192.168.1.75
11:28:58, 19 Aug. ( 2332.310000) Port forwarding rule added via UPnP/TR064. Protocol: TCP, external ports: any- >40959, internal ports: 40959, internal client: 192.168.1.75
11:28:56, 19 Aug. ( 2330.040000) Device disconnected: Hostname: SaadWaseem- PC IP: 192.168.1.103 MAC: 08:00:27:3e:34:c6
11:28:56, 19 Aug. ( 2330.030000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:28:56, 19 Aug. ( 2330.030000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Saads- Air IP: 192.168.1.75 MAC: 64:76:ba:a4:7e:cc
11:28:54, 19 Aug. ( 2328.560000) Lease for IP 192.168.1.103 renewed by host SaadWaseem- PC (MAC 08:00:27:3e:34:c6). Lease duration: 1440 min
11:28:54, 19 Aug. ( 2328.480000) Lease requested
11:28:52, 19 Aug. ath00: STA 64:76:ba:a4:7e:cc IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2304.690000) Device disconnected: Hostname: SaadWaseem- PC IP: 192.168.1.103 MAC: 08:00:27:3e:34:c6
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2304.680000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2304.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: PS4- e8- 61- 7e- 7d- 06- f5 IP: 192.168.1.73 MAC: e8:61:7e:7d:06:f5
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2304.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Mamoonas- iPad IP: 192.168.1.72 MAC: e4:8b:7f:46:71:52
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2304.280000) Host iPhone- Swiss (MAC cc:20:e8:8c:ea:49) using IP 192.168.1.70 detected on interface ath00, port - 1
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2304.260000) Host Saads- Air (MAC 64:76:ba:a4:7e:cc) using IP 192.168.1.75 detected on interface eth0, port 0
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2303.930000) Lease for IP 192.168.1.103 renewed by host SaadWaseem- PC (MAC 08:00:27:3e:34:c6). Lease duration: 1440 min
11:28:30, 19 Aug. ( 2303.840000) Lease requested
11:28:29, 19 Aug. ( 2303.530000) Lease for IP 192.168.1.75 renewed by host Saads- Air (MAC 64:76:ba:a4:7e:cc). Lease duration: 1440 min
11:28:29, 19 Aug. ( 2303.460000) Lease requested
11:28:25, 19 Aug. ( 2299.680000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:28:25, 19 Aug. ( 2299.680000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Saads- Air IP: 192.168.1.75 MAC: 64:76:ba:a4:7e:cc
11:28:25, 19 Aug. ( 2299.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: PS4- e8- 61- 7e- 7d- 06- f5 IP: 192.168.1.73 MAC: e8:61:7e:7d:06:f5
11:28:25, 19 Aug. ( 2299.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Mamoonas- iPad IP: 192.168.1.72 MAC: e4:8b:7f:46:71:52
11:28:25, 19 Aug. ( 2299.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: iPhone- Swiss IP: 192.168.1.70 MAC: cc:20:e8:8c:ea:49
11:28:25, 19 Aug. ( 2299.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: localhost IP: 192.168.1.67 MAC: f8:04:2e:dc:75:62
11:28:24, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:28:21, 19 Aug. ( 2294.990000) Lease for IP 192.168.1.67 renewed by host localhost (MAC f8:04:2e:dc:75:62). Lease duration: 1440 min
11:28:21, 19 Aug. ( 2294.990000) Device connected: Hostname: localhost IP: 192.168.1.67 MAC: f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 Lease time: 1440 min. Link rate: 866.6 Mbps
11:28:21, 19 Aug. ( 2294.930000) Lease requested
11:28:20, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:28:20, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:28:20, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:28:16, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ( 2289.690000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ( 2289.680000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Saads- Air IP: 192.168.1.75 MAC: 64:76:ba:a4:7e:cc
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ( 2289.680000) Device disconnected: Hostname: PS4- e8- 61- 7e- 7d- 06- f5 IP: 192.168.1.73 MAC: e8:61:7e:7d:06:f5
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ( 2289.680000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Mamoonas- iPad IP: 192.168.1.72 MAC: e4:8b:7f:46:71:52
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ( 2289.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: Mamoonas- iPad IP: 192.168.1.72 MAC: e4:8b:7f:46:71:52
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ( 2289.670000) Device disconnected: Hostname: iPhone- Swiss IP: 192.168.1.70 MAC: cc:20:e8:8c:ea:49
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:28:15, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:28:14, 19 Aug. ath00: STA cc:20:e8:8c:ea:49 IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:28:11, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:28:11, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:28:11, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:28:11, 19 Aug. ath10: STA f8:04:2e:dc:75:62 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:27:35, 19 Aug. ( 2249.680000) Device disconnected: Hostname: LGwebOSTV IP: 192.168.1.101 MAC: c8:08:e9:99:bc:c6
11:27:22, 19 Aug. IN: BLOCK [12] Spoofing protection (IGMP 86.141.212.188- >224.0.0.22 on ppp1)
11:26:54, 19 Aug. IN: BLOCK [12] Spoofing protection (IGMP 192.168.1.254- >224.0.0.22 on eth1)
11:26:54, 19 Aug. ( 2208.660000) Admin login successful by 192.168.1.87 on HTTP
11:26:30, 19 Aug. ( 2184.320000) Lease for IP 192.168.1.76 renewed by host Javs- iPhone (MAC cc:20:e8:df:ec:1f). Lease duration: 1440 min
11:26:30, 19 Aug. ( 2184.320000) Device connected: Hostname: Javs- iPhone IP: 192.168.1.76 MAC: cc:20:e8:df:ec:1f Lease time: 1440 min. Link rate: 105.6 Mbps
11:26:30, 19 Aug. ( 2184.260000) Lease requested
11:26:30, 19 Aug. ( 2184.100000) Host Javs- iPhone (MAC cc:20:e8:df:ec:1f) using IP 192.168.1.76 detected on interface ath00, port - 1
11:26:30, 19 Aug. ath00: STA cc:20:e8:df:ec:1f IEEE 802.11: Client associated
11:26:29, 19 Aug. ath00: STA cc:20:e8:df:ec:1f IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated
11:26:29, 19 Aug. ( 2183.060000) New GUI session from IP 192.168.1.87
 
At 11.27 the internet wasn't working.
I have copied and pasted the log. Not sure what to look out for..

That what i noted down last time i was working on it.

In this. 1 HH5 was connected to 4 BT Powerline adaptors. It doesn't matter if you are connected to the HH directly or Powerline. Everyone is still connected but no internet for anyone.
 
Hi guys.
Been researching what to replace the lovely BT equipment.

What you guys think about the following:

Draytek 130 Modem.
Into a router. Not sure which one. Need some help here.
Then are you meant to use a security gate way? I'm not sure.
Then into a switch for. I have 14 cables to plug in. I have Netgear Pro safe Gs116 16 Port Gigabit Switch. Is this good enough or it has to be upgraded.

And finally Ubiquiti Unifi UAP AC LITE. 5 pack. Im hoping this will fix my internet drop out issues.

And this for my Xerox upstairs as suggested here. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Br...c8903d387494d2

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Hmm well assuming the HH5 log also includes DSL / PPP events (don't know as I don't own one) and those don't appear to show up then I can't see any clear drops of the broadband itself, the issue does thus appear related to your local network setup. But in not being a HH5 owner I can't be sure, you might be best asking on the BT Community Forums.

Devices shouldn't become disconnected from the network just because the Internet is off-line as the local network will still be active, although that log suggests that the devices are all being disconnected from the network at the same time (unless BT's logs use incorrect wording to describe the events). I'd be interested to know if, when things like this occur, you can still get online by using a direct wired Ethernet link to the router as a test?

Otherwise the modem needs to connect into whichever router is destined to be the master, but this does seem like one of those challenges that is a bit tricky to resolve without actually being stood in front of the network myself. Usually when you get problems like this it's best to simplify. Cut everything back to basics and slowly add new adapters / additions until you find where problem begins.
 
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