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Honest - SMART eSIM is here!

I would recommend people who have it fill in the form to request more apps, I have asked for quite a few EV charging Apps…

But I like the idea of the smart sim, but not sure about the implementation, as surely if something talks over HTTPS or ports 8080 or 443 then you should be able to web browse unless they are IP whitelisting on the Proxy
The server has a set list of domains it can allow, the rest are blacklisted. Last week they temporarily had this disabled and all browsing was allowed, speed was bog standard and latency massive, but using Amazon cloud as an ISP based in America is always going to cause that. That's why I can't see it ever being sustained for TikTok, YouTube, Instagram and other video apps that rely on a good bandwidth to avoid issues. I'm sure inevitably this will be added to the list, but you're talking YouTube at a push and TikTok videos no LIVE streaming or anything of the sort that relies on low latency.

EE, O2 and Vodafone do actually allow businesses to use their own core network, which means you get a BT / O2 / Vodafone IP address and benefit from full speed or a limit if you ask them to set it, it's taken them 3 years to bootstrap Telnyx on an Amazon server with a dodgy IMSI setting you have to manually change to roam networks, very disappointing. I'd rather pay £15 a month extra (expensive, but no workaround without profit) and have access on my main SIM to ALL networks, but that would mean they'd need to use a central core network rather than Gamma who only use Three's or very expensivley and complicatedly use each network as a full roaming service that provides calls, texts and data and bills Honest later, so it's a catch 22 for sure but I wouldn't expect them to be adding anything to Smart SIM beyond basic apps, the reason they don't support voice calling on WhatsApp despite being a supported app (telling) is that they know their server is pants.

Back in the day before I knew about them apparently they had Smart Signal that allowed you to use the other networks, I'm curious whether this allowed you to use calks texts and data and how this was worked out in terms of routing everything through Honest. Why did they get rid of it in the first? Probably for the idea and problem I said above, complete guess. Expensive.
 
Back in the day before I knew about them apparently they had Smart Signal that allowed you to use the other networks, I'm curious whether this allowed you to use calks texts and data and how this was worked out in terms of routing everything through Honest. Why did they get rid of it in the first? Probably for the idea and problem I said above, complete guess. Expensive.
You could make and receive calls on the old version of Smart Signal and latency was normal.

When they got rid of it they claimed that the MNOs stopped them reintroducing it.
 
I have the Smart SIM in a Pixel 6a. The toolkit has disappeared and the APN has changed to farmerswireless.com. Currently connected to Three and unable to register on any other UK network...

Anyone else seen this?
 
The server has a set list of domains it can allow, the rest are blacklisted. Last week they temporarily had this disabled and all browsing was allowed, speed was bog standard and latency massive, but using Amazon cloud as an ISP based in America is always going to cause that. That's why I can't see it ever being sustained for TikTok, YouTube, Instagram and other video apps that rely on a good bandwidth to avoid issues. I'm sure inevitably this will be added to the list, but you're talking YouTube at a push and TikTok videos no LIVE streaming or anything of the sort that relies on low latency.

EE, O2 and Vodafone do actually allow businesses to use their own core network, which means you get a BT / O2 / Vodafone IP address and benefit from full speed or a limit if you ask them to set it, it's taken them 3 years to bootstrap Telnyx on an Amazon server with a dodgy IMSI setting you have to manually change to roam networks, very disappointing. I'd rather pay £15 a month extra (expensive, but no workaround without profit) and have access on my main SIM to ALL networks, but that would mean they'd need to use a central core network rather than Gamma who only use Three's or very expensivley and complicatedly use each network as a full roaming service that provides calls, texts and data and bills Honest later, so it's a catch 22 for sure but I wouldn't expect them to be adding anything to Smart SIM beyond basic apps, the reason they don't support voice calling on WhatsApp despite being a supported app (telling) is that they know their server is pants.

Back in the day before I knew about them apparently they had Smart Signal that allowed you to use the other networks, I'm curious whether this allowed you to use calks texts and data and how this was worked out in terms of routing everything through Honest. Why did they get rid of it in the first? Probably for the idea and problem I said above, complete guess. Expensive.


As an Enterprise company the MNO's push you down the private APN route, rather than use there own core network, and thus the enterprise customers own network deals with all traffic and any filtering and routing of the traffic, I know we have looked into it a few times, but the cost vs benefit argument is sometimes hard to overcome..

It also sounds like something Luminet offer via there sims and service provided to enterprise customers

But agree the service is far from user friendly and think I am going to cancel as it seems a bit too much of a faff, and you might as well just get a cheap esim from an MVNO and rely on wifi where possible...

They did used to have a services, as I tried it when they launched and it worked relatively well...
Also don't understand why they didnt use AWS in the UK region, or have region specific AWS servers in the same buckets... or use Route 53 across multiple regions... it just smacks of a poorly thought out design...
 
Honest I'm afraid strikes me as any other tech start-up. They are clearly burning through money and not doing very well so they are resorting to anything they can to get noticed. It is quite evident this feature came from marketing and was hacked together to make it vaguely work.
 
You could make and receive calls on the old version of Smart Signal and latency was normal.

When they got rid of it they claimed that the MNOs stopped them reintroducing it.

My guess is that in reality they swallowed the cost and were offering it when money was very cheap. The money dried up and they couldn't swallow the cost any more.

The MNOs won't give a toss as long as they get paid.
 
Can someone enlighten me as to what use this sim is if you don't roam around different countries? The only apps that it allows to be used are WhatsApp, Google Maps, Uber, Citymapper, Monzo and Revolut, for £5/month? The only benefit I can see is possibly a better signal but for what? sending a whatsapp message or using google maps that already downloads your route for you when you have signal?
 
Can someone enlighten me as to what use this sim is if you don't roam around different countries? The only apps that it allows to be used are WhatsApp, Google Maps, Uber, Citymapper, Monzo and Revolut, for £5/month? The only benefit I can see is possibly a better signal but for what? sending a whatsapp message or using google maps that already downloads your route for you when you have signal?

I don’t think there is much point to it if you spend a fortnight in Blackpool once a year! 😅

The data is unlimited for the allowed apps/sites, on that basis it’s cheaper (at the moment) than other MVNOs who roam across other UK networks and includes roaming overseas.

That said if you’re fortunate to travel frequently then you’re likely to be able to afford a local SIM or if you travel for work then you’d assume your company would provide you with data overseas.
 
So I wanted to put this to the test…I have. Pixel 8 pro..?.Honest eSIM installed..

I am currently in Disneyland Paris and have turned off my EE sim and thought all data would go to the honest sim…..but WhatsApp doesn’t work….have I to do something to make it work .

Have a plan that works on y EE sim…but wanted something to use on Caribbean trip later in the year
 
So I wanted to put this to the test…I have. Pixel 8 pro..?.Honest eSIM installed..

I am currently in Disneyland Paris and have turned off my EE sim and thought all data would go to the honest sim…..but WhatsApp doesn’t work….have I to do something to make it work .

Have a plan that works on y EE sim…but wanted something to use on Caribbean trip later in the year
Have you used the SIM toolkit to switch it over to Sparkle?

 
Android...Pixel 8 Pro

There’s an app called Telynx in your app drawer

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Click on it, then click Telynx again (the second line down), then IMSI Selection Menu and choose Sparkle.

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You need to make sure that the eSIM has roaming enabled on it in the settings menu.

You might need to restart your phone doing the above.
 
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