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How many fibre strands for FTTP - CSP

Hello,

We are planning with BT Community fibre to have FTTP installed in our street.

There are some questions that we can't seem to find on the internet.

1) How many strands of fibre does one get in their CSP? (according to this there is definitely more than 1)

2) If more than 1, what is the use of it?

3) (probably answered in 2). Can one apply for two 330/60 Mbps connections on 1 FTTP? (using the other fibre strands?) (for those interested in why: there is a big site that requires more bandwidth, it is currently unsure whether we need to apply for 2x FTTP connections, or 1x FTTP but activate 2 internet connections).


Can someone help?

Thanks,
 
As far as I understood it the community project was to enable a locality for fibre to the building or fibre to the cabinet. Not to request individual connections.

If they are saying you can already order 330 then your area is already covered and you will need to order via BT retail or any other company that can sell fttp.

In this case if you need to supply broadband to two different locations you would need two broadband accounts ordering and BT will run fibre to each place.
Or order one to one place and find your own way to distribute it to the other location (point to point Wi-Fi) and save on monthly costs.

If you just want 660 then you would just order two single and separate connections to the same building and then load balance or bond them together. BT won't provide any help at all with this other than giving you two broadband services. You will end up with two bits of glass running into the building.

The other option to complicate things is a full leased line. You would rent a 1gbps bearer into your building and ask the provider to supply you Xmbps over it. No bonding or load balancing required. However this type of connection costs multiple hundreds of pounds per month.

I may have misunderstood your request. If not..hope the above helps.

Tom - www.mouselike.org
 
thanks for your reply. Well... perhaps to clarify: the application with BT community fibre is currently for our street (rural), so the FTTP is per household. We are a larger site with multiple buildings, but this doesn't matter. What is a question mark is that those who have received FTTP (to their household, not new housing, not multiple story buildings etc), how many individual fibre strands did you receive?

I saw in the picture above when the BT Openreach installed the CSP (customer slicing point), that 1 cable is blown to your premises, but saw multiple fibre cables arriving in the CSP. So... is that true for 'all' FTTP installations to a household with BT and does anyone know whether you can apply for 2x 330/60 mbps connections? (because 330mbps is the maximum). Or.... do we need to apply for another CSP?




p.s. BT Community Fibre Partnerships is for those areas that are not currently covered by the government's projects to upgrade your area with 'faster' broadband (I think defined as +20 Mbps). So for those who are not benefiting from the government's project, can apply to BT Openreach to create a custom installation (e.g. either FTTC, upgrade cabinet or FTTP). The challenge is to get funds from your neighbourhood to partially help to fund the cost for BT Openreach (they are willing to install it, but the community needs to pay). In our situation, the cabinet is upgraded to FTTC, however our street is 3-4 KM away from this, so we do not benefit from FTTC (speed of 2Mbps). They said they could either put a new cabinet 'nearer' to our street, or FTTP. Since we are only 20+ households, it was almost the same price, so it was better to go for FTTP than a new FTTC cabinet.
 
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I suspect BT use one cable type for as many uses as possible, like the normal house telephone line, you only need two wires, but the cable has six or eight (I have found both - in different parts of the country).

So they may use a cable with several strands for a standard FTTP, but only actually connect the one.
 
Hello,

We are planning with BT Community fibre to have FTTP installed in our street.

There are some questions that we can't seem to find on the internet.

1) How many strands of fibre does one get in their CSP? (according to this there is definitely more than 1)

2) If more than 1, what is the use of it?

3) (probably answered in 2). Can one apply for two 330/60 Mbps connections on 1 FTTP? (using the other fibre strands?) (for those interested in why: there is a big site that requires more bandwidth, it is currently unsure whether we need to apply for 2x FTTP connections, or 1x FTTP but activate 2 internet connections).


Can someone help?

Thanks,

For completeness sake, I found an answer from Andrews & Arnold (http://aaisp.net/broadband.html), through the chat, they seems to be 'very' knowledgeable (this is some time ago, so I forgot I also asked this forum).

So, every CSP (customer slicing point) get 4 fibre strands. So every CSP can get 4 FTTP connections. So in our case if we get fibre into our premise, we will have 4 strands for each CSP and get 4 seperate FTTP connections.

Bye!
 
The number of strands (per cable) that feed an area also somewhat depends upon the size of cable duct / deployment approach and there's some useful, albeit very limited, information on that here:

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...e-help-bt-openreachs-uk-network-capacity.html

Naturally these then get split up into separate cables for each property, which I believe normally carry 4 fibre strands. But of course you only need 1 of these for the actual connection and by the time it reaches the Openreach FTTP modem then this might also have been reduced again to just 2 (i.e. for the cable inside your house, which needs to be very bendy / flexible). The other strands are just spare.

It's common practice to lay cables with additional strands as that could save money further down the line, plus it makes no real difference to the cost of deployment.
 
Hi,

It's me again, I didn't give up on the search for how many strands of fibre one gets. I guess I have asked the wrong question. One ONT has four ethernet ports, and you can request 4 times a FTTP service according to this PDF.

21. Will the ONT work with my ...?

The ONT has four ethernet ports, however you can only use port 1 for our service. Ports 2-4 may be made available at a later date and would allow you to purchase 3 additional FTTP services. For example, Port 1 could offer your Plusnet Broadband service, Port 2 a video on demand service connected to a set top box, Port 3 live streaming coverage of the horse racing connected to your TV and Port 4 a secure electronic payment system connected to a handheld Chip and PIN device. Your wireless router would therefore need to be able to connect to Port 1 using a WAN port and support PPPoE.
source https://community.plus.net/t5/custom/page/page-id/_FttpFaq

We wanted to have a redundancy when devices go faulty.

I will start a new thread to ask how reliable these ONTs are.

Bye
 
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