They made really decent phones. Was there actually ever any proof that they were dangerous?Dangerous orgnisation
They made really decent phones. Was there actually ever any proof that they were dangerous?
Do we believe those 5G coverage figures, how are they determined? We have this "fake 5G " issue where the phone can show the icon but is not using 5G.
Yeah their phones were great. I get middle aged customers like "I used to love my Huawei, it's a shame they're not sold anymore"They made really decent phones. Was there actually ever any proof that they were dangerous?
tbh if the Google Apps ban didn't exist, I might have not bought a XiaomiYeah their phones were great. I get middle aged customers like "I used to love my Huawei, it's a shame they're not sold anymore"
It didn't made sense to ban Huawei based on the possibility of things going wrong in future, when there was proof that Cisco devices were being intercepted by the NSA. I'm sure the US thought that imposing a Huawei ban would have led to their respective companies getting into the cores of these huge networks, but they went with Nokia and Ericsson.
If the UK government was serious about the security of network devices placed in critical infrastructure then they'd be encouraging development of homegrown option, which as far as I can tell hasn't happened.
this. UK had a dedicated group working with Huawei. Germans had a group of cybersec workers looking at Huawei. All it took was for Trump to say Huawei bad and spying for them to get pummeled by the US. Only USA spying stuff is allowedNope, pretty sure that Security Services looked at this and said there was no immediate threat nor could they they find any backdoors or vulnerabilities.
If it was that urgent they’d have forced providers to speed up the switch out and handed out repayable grants/loans to help.
If they were that worried about Chinese interference in infrastructure, Three wouldn’t be a thing and Hutchison couldn’t be allowed to own a significant share in some of their companies.
Wasn’t this largely the US pressuring the UK?
Reality is, the UK and US are not aligned with China. We don't want to use their equipment for the same reason they don't want to use Cisco/Nokia/Ericsson equipment as they have to worry about the hardware, unknown backdoors (present and future),
Better the devil you know than the one you don’tFYI The NSA were caught backdooring Juniper and Cisco equipment. It's public knowledge.
FYI The NSA were caught backdooring Juniper and Cisco equipment. It's public knowledge.
China is just as guilty on imposing similar on their own citizens, but unlike the EU with WhatsApp they have actually been successful in doing so with WeChat and the great firewallI'd rather people who freely give our nuclear secrets to the Russians not have access to our data. But there's not a great deal I can do about it. I don't really believe Huawei did anything wrong and nobody has managed to prove they did either. It would seem to me that the snooping into everything your own people do is primarily for their own ends not some altruistic reason like protecting us. I'm slightly more inclined to believe the Chinese wouldn't care what I do with my Chinese phones but our own government (and the EU) are busy frothing at the mouth to read my whatsapps for some reason. Oh well.