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Hyperoptic Nokia router in bridge mode - help pls

gypsymoth

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Just had Hyper installed. Can't get an ethernet cable directly from the ONT to my Asus router, so need to use the Hyperoptic Nokia one as a go-between to an unmanaged network switch

it's a Nokia HA-140W-B

Believe it or not, I cannot find anything online about putting it on bridge mode

Any advice appreciated

Do I simply need to turn off DHCP and let the Asus do this?
 
Does the Nokia support bridge mode?

Do you intend to put a dumb switch on the bridge, assuming the Nokia supports bridge mode?
 
Does the Nokia support bridge mode?

Do you intend to put a dumb switch on the bridge, assuming the Nokia supports bridge mode?
Hey - thanks for replying. I can't find anything specifically within the manual or online about putting it in bridge mode.


I've literally just unchecked the DHCP box in the Nokia control panel. It's *seems* to be working but losing about 150mbp speeds based on Speedtest run from my laptop
 
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DHCP server hands out IP addresses in the LAN so leases have probably not yet expired. Client connections might be lost once leases do expire and recovery would be by setting a static IP address to access the router.

Disabling DHCP server would not be equivalent to bridge mode. Typically, if you do put a router into bridge mode, you would put a feature-rich router downstream, and not a dumb switch (otherwise, which downstream device is bridged to WAN?).
 
If the cabling can't be changed, replacing the Nokia router with one of these would do the job.


However then the Asus router WAN port needs to be set with whatever the ONT needs to authenticate.
 
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I cannot work out why you'd want to do this, even if you had access issues. Surely there's two ethernet cables between the Nokia router? Can't you just remove the Nokia router and get an ethernet coupler and connect the Asus router direct to the ONT?
 
I cannot work out why you'd want to do this, even if you had access issues. Surely there's two ethernet cables between the Nokia router? Can't you just remove the Nokia router and get an ethernet coupler and connect the Asus router direct to the ONT?

No. I’ll expand (I didn’t go into this detail initially)

TLDR - I can move my Asus router, but I'd rather it was in the cellar. I cant find another ethjernet cable under the floor

Ground floor - I have a bunch of other devices in an alcove that need ethernet (home security etc).

These devices were previously served by a single ethernet cable coming from the cellar, under floorboards to a gigabit switch in this alcove (this then served the various devices).

Cellar - previously, a phone line into cellar, my Asus router, another switch that had myriad ethernet going all over the house (including going to that alcove I mentioned above).

It was tidy, it worked.

Now.. Hyperoptic couldnt install the ONT in the cellar. So it's about 4ft from the alcove on the ground floor. Without major hassle, I cannot put a new ethernet cable under floorboard to the Asus router situated in the cellar (which I view as the hub of my network setup).

So... I couldnt work out if I could connect the ground floor ONT directly to the switch, then route the Hyperoptic signal onto my Asus router in the cellar. It didn't work when I tried.

What next? Well, I might have to resite the Asus router in the alcove and connect it to the ONT... then connect all my bits. I just tried this - wifi from the Asus is 500 down/500 up (great) but the only snag now is that my connected unifi wifi access points are now running at half speed and I have no idea why
 
I see, that makes more sense. To achieve what you want to achieve, you'd likely need to get into VLANs, in order to separate WAN traffic from LAN traffic. Depending on your technical proficiency, this could be a bit complex and overkill but would essentially enable you to do what you want to do.

The most logical, as you've pointed out is to move the asus router closer to the ONT and have everything else fed down that Ethernet cable to your other devices.

When you say your unifi APs are at half speed, are these connected via ethernet, or do they operate using some form of wireless meshing?

Also, are you willing to invest some money into having your ideal setup? You could get a couple of cheaper VLAN capable smart switches and locate one in the alcove near the ONT and one in the cellar.
 
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I see, that makes more sense. To achieve what you want to achieve, you'd likely need to get into VLANs, in order to separate WAN traffic from LAN traffic. Depending on your technical proficiency, this could be a bit complex and overkill but would essentially enable you to do what you want to do.

The most logical, as you've pointed out is to move the asus router closer to the ONT and have everything else fed down that Ethernet cable to your other devices.

When you say your unifi APs are at half speed, are these connected via ethernet, or do they operate using some form of wireless meshing?

Also, are you willing to invest some money into having your ideal setup? You could get a couple of cheaper VLAN capable smart switches and locate one in the alcove near the ONT and one in the cellar.
Thanks for the reply, Matt

The unifi is connected to the upstairs switch and it’s all via ethernet. In fact, every single one of them in the house is connected via ethernet which is built into the cavity walls.

It’s just weird that the Wi-Fi network from the access points is half the speed it should be and I’m just trying to work out where the network congestion might be
 
Thanks for the reply, Matt

The unifi is connected to the upstairs switch and it’s all via ethernet. In fact, every single one of them in the house is connected via ethernet which is built into the cavity walls.

It’s just weird that the Wi-Fi network from the access points is half the speed it should be and I’m just trying to work out where the network congestion might be
I'll take a look at the video and do a draw up of what I think the setup could look like. Essentially what you need is *nothing between the ONT and the WAN interface on your Ausus router.

*Nothing that bridges WAN and LAN.

on the ubiquiti devices, you mention half speed. What does that equate to? Is it around 100mbps? Reason I ask is that 100Mbps tends to be the fall back speed if the ethernet cable is damaged or not using all of the twisted pairs within the cable.
 
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I'll take a look at the video and do a draw up of what I think the setup could look like. Essentially what you need is *nothing between the ONT and the WAN interface on your Ausus router.

*Nothing that bridges WAN and LAN.

on the ubiquiti devices, you mention half speed. What does that equate to? Is it around 100mbps? Reason I ask is that 100Mbps tends to be the fall back speed if the ethernet cable is damaged or not using all of the twisted pairs within the cable.
You’re spot on in the first paragraph

Half speed is around 250mbp on this 500mbps service. Let me try a new cable that’s straight (this one is 5m and curled). Thanks
 
The ONT hyperoptic uses looks like the same as mine from openreach, nokia ONT. i just run a Ethernet cable from ONT box to my (Custom) router, simple asf. does hyperoptic not let you do this? confused XD
 
You’re spot on in the first paragraph

Half speed is around 250mbp on this 500mbps service. Let me try a new cable that’s straight (this one is 5m and curled). Thanks
Okay, it is unlikely to be the cable then.

The most likely cause that I can think of it radio interference of having your Asus router in such close proximity to your Ubiquiti AP. Have you confirmed that you're able to get greater than 250mbps by connecting a laptop to the various switches via ethernet?
 
The ONT hyperoptic uses looks like the same as mine from openreach, nokia ONT. i just run a Ethernet cable from ONT box to my (Custom) router, simple asf. does hyperoptic not let you do this? confused XD
The OP is essentially trying to pass WAN and LAN traffic down a single ethernet cable from where there ONT is, down to a switch in their cellar where they want their router. This cable is currently carrying LAN traffic, as the FTTC connection that they used to have entered the cellar and was able to connect to their router directly, as the proximity was close.
 
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