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To all the moaners,look at my usage below:

DU Meter Monthly Report
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Period (Month) Download Upload Both Directions

June 2006 370.83 GB 8.57 GB 379.40 GB
July 2006 723.59 GB 18.11 GB 741.70 GB
August 2006 497.44 GB 12.64 GB 510.08 GB
September 2006 571.56 GB 13.48 GB 585.04 GB
October 2006 564.55 GB 13.67 GB 578.22 GB
November 2006 926.17 GB 21.16 GB 947.33 GB
December 2006 237.47 GB 5.01 GB 242.48 GB

These downloads were obtained from several small
unlimited ISP`s so the point i am making is if you look hard and long enough you can find some pretty useful
ISP`s.Expect to pay a bit more than £25 a month but
not that exhorbitant.
Don`t follow the herd as any good ISP soon gets overwhelmed with a lot of new subscribers aka Enta
resellers.
For that reason my latest ISP is ............................?
Cheers/Chris
 
Good God....You have got to be costing the ISP a MINT! :eek:

No way could an ISP support many people like that!
 
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yer i sometimes wonder,the first one went bust and the second changed to charging a £1 a gb.
I`ll have to watch my step with this latest one and do a lot of off peak so as not to affect their daytime business clients.
It would only take a few more like me to shag them up hence my secret.Also i am getting 630kBs most of the time and it soon adds up running 24/7.
Cheers/Chris
 
Guess what me and you have in common deadelvis99 :laugh:

I also thought I was a heavy downloader. Your stats reassure me that I will never get a FUP notice for termination of service from my ISP.

I dont believe downloading a bit more does cost an ISP that much more. Its like shelf space. Theoretically, it somebody uses all the shelf space in a "supermarket" so there's not enough for other people, then there's a problem, and it would cost the Supermarket more to provide the extra "Shelves", as each metre of floor space costs money. However if a "supermarket" has a lot of empty shelves, what is wrong with somebody using it?

Where customer is, replace ISP, and where shelf space is, replace Bandwidth

Obviously this ISP has a lot of extra capacity.

...Where lot is, replace LOT.:)
 
To all the moaners,look at my usage below:

DU Meter Monthly Report
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Period (Month) Download Upload Both Directions

June 2006 370.83 GB 8.57 GB 379.40 GB
July 2006 723.59 GB 18.11 GB 741.70 GB
August 2006 497.44 GB 12.64 GB 510.08 GB
September 2006 571.56 GB 13.48 GB 585.04 GB
October 2006 564.55 GB 13.67 GB 578.22 GB
November 2006 926.17 GB 21.16 GB 947.33 GB
December 2006 237.47 GB 5.01 GB 242.48 GB

These downloads were obtained from several small
unlimited ISP`s so the point i am making is if you look hard and long enough you can find some pretty useful
ISP`s.Expect to pay a bit more than £25 a month but
not that exhorbitant.
Don`t follow the herd as any good ISP soon gets overwhelmed with a lot of new subscribers aka Enta
resellers.
For that reason my latest ISP is ............................?
Cheers/Chris

Hope you are upto date with rules for them

Seriously Internet charge £14.99 a month for 1GB usage. Each additional 1Gb used in charged in arrears at a cost of £1.00 per 1Gb.
 
Deadelvis99 is not downloading. He's a black hole.

Just for information, what in god's name are you downloading.

As for what it costs your ISP, I believe that this is the current BT Wholesale price list.
 
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Guess what me and you have in common deadelvis99 :laugh:

I also thought I was a heavy downloader. Your stats reassure me that I will never get a FUP notice for termination of service from my ISP.

I dont believe downloading a bit more does cost an ISP that much more. Its like shelf space. Theoretically, it somebody uses all the shelf space in a "supermarket" so there's not enough for other people, then there's a problem, and it would cost the Supermarket more to provide the extra "Shelves", as each metre of floor space costs money. However if a "supermarket" has a lot of empty shelves, what is wrong with somebody using it?

Where customer is, replace ISP, and where shelf space is, replace Bandwidth

Obviously this ISP has a lot of extra capacity.

...Where lot is, replace LOT.:)

Yes i agree Ds,they are charged a lot(£) for the size of pipe not what goes through it.Those Isp`s who take on 1,000`s of new customers should get their infrastructure in place
as they accept new customers instead of waiting till their systems are overloaded and then panicing with throttling.
My ISP doesn`t seem to be overloaded so i watch my downloading in realtime and if my speed half`s during
none peaktime exchange contention time i switch off for an hour .The guy in sales said they ain`t to bothered with the size of my usage as long as it don`t impact on their overall service.So if i use it smart and no other big users start with them i`m hoping to be ok.
Cheers/Chris
 
Hope you are upto date with rules for them

You betcha i migrated on 29-11-06 and their £1 a gb
is starting on 01-1-07.
Imagine if you didn`t see the warning e-mail and you were a heavy user on seriously`s unlimited service,you get a bill for
700gb at £1 a gb aaarrggg,the stuff of nightmares :eek:

Cheers/Chris
 
you know those stats dont impress me much :D on a slow month l pass those kinda stats, but since my increase in speed lve already passed my expectations.

in any case l can useually fill up my 700GB+ of space a month which costs me a bomb in DVD-/+R's
 
you know those stats dont impress me much :D on a slow month l pass those kinda stats, but since my increase in speed lve already passed my expectations.

in any case l can useually fill up my 700GB+ of space a month which costs me a bomb in DVD-/+R's

Yup its a bugger trying to keep up with the burning,
cost is not so bad with dvd-roms at 10p each in bulk .
I have about 2tb stashed on usb hardrives waiting to burn.
Main problem is ISP`s being unhappy with such large downloads.My current one seems ok so far but i am not letting on who they are as only a few like minded
downloaders would wreck it for me.
I reckon i could pull down over a 1tb a month if i wanted
but i turn off now and again so as to not push my luck.
I wonder how AOL`s unlimited policy will fare now that they have been taken over ? last of the few.
Whats the most you have ever downloaded in a month ?
 
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lol, well most in a month was 1TB but that's kinda dried up so lm passing 800GIG at least maybe a lil more, but l do have several boxes of DVD's which come to about 10TB of DVD's could be more as lm only estimating.

still l do have a mate on NTL 10meg who has filled up 2 TB in one month err and now he has bought more HD's since he doesn't really like DVD's as they can be unpredictable on occasions
 
while that maybe true we pay for a service and we expect to use it... hell l don't have a TV l don't even get a licence because id rather spend time online because here l can download what l wanna watch.. and when l say download l don't mean pirated films, as mentioned earlier l download fan subbed unlicensed stuff.. yeah your right but damn if lm paying for something l expect to ge something l want out of it :p
 
while that maybe true we pay for a service and we expect to use it... hell l don't have a TV l don't even get a licence because id rather spend time online because here l can download what l wanna watch.. and when l say download l don't mean pirated films, as mentioned earlier l download fan subbed unlicensed stuff.. yeah your right but damn if lm paying for something l expect to ge something l want out of it :p

You pay for a shared service not a leased line yet use it as a leased line. It's people like you two that will make ISPs bring in charges per gig instead of a fixed price per month. When all ISPs have changed to seriously internets way of charging we all know who to blame.
 
then what's the point of increasing internet speeds? if ones given the tools why shouldn't one use them? l bet no one can really say they don't make "good" use of the net and that they haven't spent days torrenting or downloading a few gigs..

why give us extra speed if we cant use it? kinda stumps me really, after all l do pay my own way.
 
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l bet no one can really say they don't make "good" use of the net and that they haven't spent days torrenting or downloading a few gigs..

I can honestly say that don't, if it wasn't for the likes of you abusing a shared system, then others would get a fairer deal from ISP's.

If you really need to download that amount of probably illegal stuff, you should be considering a leased line so that you actually pay for your usage.. :(
 
I wonder how long before the ISPs start kicking people like you and then you find no ISP willing to take you on. Unless you pay per gig for what you use.
 
I wonder how long before the ISPs start kicking people like you and then you find no ISP willing to take you on. Unless you pay per gig for what you use.
How come ISP`s like BE can offer unlimited usage but those at the mercy of BT can`t.
Have the unbundled boys some "magic" equipment denied
to BT.
I read an article in a paper a couple of years back talking about the dot com burst bubble.
It stated that there was a huge surplus of copper cable in the ground installed during the dot com boom.
Its that monopoly called BT that keeps us from having
unlimited usage.Now the idiots at BT are talking about
much faster speeds.
Gee you will be able to use up your monthly 20gb in just
a few hours.
I find other peoples views interesting so please keep up this dialogue.
Cheers/Chris
 
How come ISP`s like BE can offer unlimited usage but those at the mercy of BT can`t.


BT wholesale made a 'voluntary' agreement with Ofcom to maintain a price margin in order to encourage competition.

This margin means LLU providers like BE can afford to make the required large scale investment in infrastructure and compete with BT. Otherwise a monopoly the size of BT could easilly undercut LLU prices, which while it might result in much lower prices at least in the short term, could put LLU providers out of business.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/rwlam/bbr/
11. Until 1.5 million lines have been unbundled, BT has committed not to reduce the connection or rental prices of its ADSL broadband products (IPStream/BT Central or DataStream), with the exception of the £10 reduction in the end user connection charges also announced on 23 rd June. BT has also made commitments regarding the pricing of new IPStream/BT Central products, additional features and more bandwidth-intensive offerings. These commitments will have the effect of maintaining the margin available for typical scale LLU operators.


12. Upon reaching the 1.5 million line threshold, BT has committed to only reducing the rental price of the ADSL end user connection, and then by no more than 3% (on a nationally averaged basis) up until the earlier of 1 April 2007 or the completion of the Wholesale Broadband Access (WBA) Market Review.

You will probably see some LLU providers introducing caps or throttling once they reach capacity, as it will most likely be more profitable to lose their most extreme users rather than invest in the extra capacity to accommodate the excess usage of a few percent of their customerbase.


BT currently charge about £100.80 per customer per year for ADSL 'line' rental on capacity based charging and about 1.5 million per year per 622Mbit BT central pipe. This means if you could use a 8mbps connection flat out 24/7 you would cost your poor ISP something like £1610 +vat per month in payments to BT's alone.
 
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