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Yup it must have broken BT`s heart to have to keep those prices high ?
I wonder what is the true cost of Capacity.
BT as the monopoly supplier can get away with charging what they like.When they privatised most of the state utilites
there was quite an element of competion but when it came to BT not so.What was that other Telco that faded away,
was it "Mercury" or such like i forget.
Perhaps if BT had spent a bit of money on their infrastructure like most modern IT providers like the cable companies the
whole country might have been in a better position vis
broadband.
So when 100Mbit speeds arrive will we still be expected to
only use 50gb.
If the total internet infrastructure had been planned and run like BT run broadband in this country i hate to think
what our download speed would have been reduced too.
Just had a look at my total download for November
its 947.33gb and i wasn`t even trying to get a huge total.
Guess i`ll have to throttle back a bit as my latest ISP has
mentioned on their forum about one of their "pipes" being overloaded,i wonder if that was cos of me.
Cheers/Chris
 
I can honestly say that don't, if it wasn't for the likes of you abusing a shared system, then others would get a fairer deal from ISP's.

If you really need to download that amount of probably illegal stuff, you should be considering a leased line so that you actually pay for your usage.. :(

actually what l download is a grey area, l mentioned earlier lm a fan of japanese animation, mostly fan subbed stuff and because 90% of it isn't licence in america.. you may say they have their own copyrights but how often does japan listen to our laws which is why the uk and america doesn't listen to theirs

and as said before, if BT didn't want their connections used then why do they keep upgrading the speed? the faster one goes the faster they get the file which means more files can be downloaded.. maybe you haven't downloaded films, series, etc but everyone here is guilty of downloading pointless things

anywho to bring me to my point, which more increases to speed it means we can download more, if ISP's don't wish us to they shouldn't be offering services that fast in the first place.. this pay per gig usage is just a ploy to get more money out of us when they put a rediculass amount of usage on their lines, tell you what tho l could live with a fair usage policy.. l did for a while however l think if they expect me to sit here and only use this connection to download a few meg a day to keep their service stable.. why the hell offer upto8meg connections, they give us faster speeds why shouldn't l be able to use them?
 
I think you will find that the reason BT upgraded to the 8 meg was due to presure from Ofcom to keep inline with the LLU providers who can do 2+, also the upto 8 meg connections are for the future things video on demand and the likes to give sky/ntl/telewest a run for its money also to take business away from homechoice.

Any one who makes money off their ADSL line is not using ADSL in a way that it was meant to be used.
 
all l can say is what l download is for my own personal use ;)
 
all l can say is what l download is for my own personal use ;)

Funny ain`t it,the moment you tell people you download a lot they immediatly assume you are flogging dvd-roms at car boots or the local market.
We download a lot cos we are addicts and can`t bear to leave our connection idle.
 
All the biggest companies keep their prices high. The only big company that I trust is MS. You can talk them down all you want, but they are one of the most responsible companies in the world. Sure they take down companies, and buy out companies, but its what EVERY other business does, or would do if they had the chance. MS, although sometimes they make mistakes, such as bundling IE with Windows software, learn and try to encourage competition these days, as they know without innovation they are screwed.

BT are the price leaders at the moment since they have the most customers, and whilst its fair to say they charge a bomb for "slow" speeds and minimal bandwidth, if they dropped prices too far, it would force many ISP's out the business, leading to less choice.

As for downloading a lot, I agree with you. What you download is your own business. For all we know, you could be using your connection to (probably) index the entire web as we speak so that you have a personal cache of the internet should WW3 ever happen and the networks get pulled down ;)

"Any one who makes money off their ADSL line is not using ADSL in a way that it was meant to be used."

Erm...eBay?
 
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well kinda lol, but in my personal opinion uk TV and sky isnt worth my money id rather watch something l wish to watch.. regardless of that fact even tho l may enjoy what l watch l do learn allot from it as well.. how many of us can say they are gaining an understanding of one of the hardest languages to learn on earth and also learn allot about how other countries live within their own set of beliefs.. granted not all what l watch goes along with the second part but l do feel that my japanese vocab is increasing lol
 
U should know where im coming from Dark and know me better to point out something obvious like ebay selling personal items.
 
why give us extra speed if we cant use it? kinda stumps me really, after all l do pay my own way.

It seems to me that you obviously never watch or 90% half the stuff you burn to DVD but just download it on the perverse basis of some kind of big thrill at having managed to over use your ISP's hospitality more than anyone else.

As to why give us the extra speed etc if we can't use it etc, etc surely your electricity supply lets you burn many Kw/hr if you want to but you don't do it because it would leave you with an electricity bill of several thousand pounds per quarter. Ditto if petrol could be obtained for a fixed price every month regardless of use then crazies like you would be burning up and down to Scotland and to the South of France every weekend just because you could and for the hell of it. And if you and everyone who had unmetered water supplies in this country started running all their taps night and day just because it cost them nothing extra then we would have all had water meters fitted years ago.

Ultimatelly all broadband models which do not charge by use are unsustainable because there are always reckless and irresponsible individuals like you who will over use a service like this just because they can. I can only begin to imagine how you might behave at an all you can eat restaurant stuffing your pockets and suitcases you have bought along with with you with every item of food going. And just because you have a car that can do 200mph doesn't mean you are legally allowed to do that speed on any public road in the UK does it now?

I'm sorry but people who download the amount you are downloading lead lives where they clearly have nothing better to do and also maintaining that you prefer to download everything and don't use satellite or Freeview for most of your viewing again seems to result from a sad desire just to avoud the main broadcasting mechanisms which contain most of the best programs for its own sake.

No ISP should let a residential customer download more than 100Gb per month and if they find any that are using more than this they should kick their asses as soon as possible or start charging them £5 per Gb for exceeding this limit.

Dial up internet was never unlimited and if it had been would have been abused in just the same kind of way and make the UK PSTN telephone network collapse. The mistake made by the ISPs on broadband at the outset was to confuse a connection that is always on with also providing unlimited download capacity. This never was and this never will be a sensible proposition in the long run.

Be Unlimited are in a huge growth and expansion mode where their backbone network is nowhere near at full capacity. As soon as it starts to get near capacity they will want to get rid of or charge by the Gb customers like you as fast as they possibly can.
 
l did for a while however l think if they expect me to sit here and only use this connection to download a few meg a day to keep their service stable.. why the hell offer upto8meg connections, they give us faster speeds why shouldn't l be able to use them?

You should be allowed to use it but you should be paying £1 per Gb to reflect the real cost and then ask yourself if what you do with all the stuff you download is actually worth the money and if you can afford it.

Cars let us drive many hours a day when we are not at work but most of us don't do it due to the cost of the petrol and the depreciation caused to our cars, even though quite a few might drive endlessly if there was only a set fee per month to do so.

Your approach is totally illogical when you consider how all other finite and scarce commodities are limited by price.
 
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It seems to me that you obviously never watch or 90% half the stuff you burn to DVD but just download it on the perverse basis of some kind of big thrill at having managed to over use your ISP's hospitality more than anyone else.

get your facts right... lve watched virtually everything l have downloaded which amounts to series wise around 650 that are in my database and prolly 200 that are not, everything in my cases on disk l have watched and are there til l want to watch them again.
 
And how did you used to spend your evenings before broadband tv came along timeless?:confused:

I still think you only do what you do out of some sad sense of satisfaction at getting something for nothing from your ISP and also knowing you have robbed them blind whilst it is all still perfectly legal. Also only liking weird Japanese animated features speaks to me not of an intelligent mind but rather of a bizarrely distorted one.

I'm sure if electricity was a set price per month then people like you would have all the lights in their houses on 24 hours a day with the most powerful light bulbs they could find and would probably also be running a free recharge station for electric cars to boot.
 
if anyone is sad and distorted here its the one who disrespects without any knowledge of the subject of which he stupidly tries to talk about, and as for how l spent my evenings have little to do with you but for your information l was generally out doing things l shouldnt have been doing at the time because l was generally kicked out where l lived most of the time.. oh hail parental abuse. (sadly an off topic comment but whatever)

lm fed up of normal TV l dont have sky l want to watch things that l would never get to see normally is that so bad? and why does that give you the right to disrespect someone based purely upon the fact that most classify anime as porn.. if thats what your baseing your knowledge upon you need to get facts right... anime is a style of animation unique to japan to generalise it to porn you would have to watch hentai which l do not do
 
Ok that is it I am closing this thread and would recommend that members refrain from turning thread into personal attack on other members.
 
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