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Users don't have to be "into RCS" or know what RCS is.

RCS is meant to be a modern SMS/MMS replacement. Not supporting it makes as much sense as not supporting something like VoLTE. You want it to be there, even if most of your calls are done via apps. The user doesn't need to know about it.

Regarding the iMessages stuff, 2 years ago I got into an argument with my brother because they were planning to do something at school and because almost everyone had iPhones, they decided to create a group on iMessages where they were sharing ideas, pictures, etc. There were 3 or 4 without iPhones, so I thought that was wrong.

Having RCS would allow iPhone users to do the same thing on the same app without forcing anyone to pay to send images or feel excluded. I don't know why, but eventually the discussion moved to Snapchat... By the way, this happened with kids doing sixth form somewhere on the outskirts of London, not the US.

I tried RCS and switched it off again because it isn't supported yet by many carriers and when supported my messages never made it across even when it was the same carrier. At least I know SMS works. RCS depends on every carrier implementing it reliably and we all know how well they do that when some of them don't even have VoLTE, WiFi Calling, or even reliable service in some towns. It will never replace iMessage and WhatsApp and is too little too late.
 
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MMS charges have probably hurt iMessage and RCS adoption here. Too easy to accidentally send one, I never even realised MMS's cost extra until I sent one years back, I suspect that's the same for most people.

I'm not sure if MMS charges are a thing in the rest of Europe. But activating iMessage in most European countries outside the UK costs, as it texts a UK number without your consent to complete activation. This probably also hurts iMessage adoption.
 
MMS charges have probably hurt iMessage and RCS adoption here. Too easy to accidentally send one, I never even realised MMS's cost extra until I sent one years back, I suspect that's the same for most people.

I'm not sure if MMS charges are a thing in the rest of Europe. But activating iMessage in most European countries outside the UK costs, as it texts a UK number without your consent to complete activation. This probably also hurts iMessage adoption.
I think it's 60p per MMS message usually? I think Voxi and SMARTY are the only networks that offer it inclusively?

I don't think it's that easy to accidentally send one considering it won't automatically resend a message as MMS unless you get it to (at least in Google Messages, not sure what happens if the user deactivates RCS).

Shows an automatically resend as a text toggle turned off


Ideally, you should set up a spend cap anyways though to prevent unwanted charges (although I think O2 even blocks just trying to check the balance on a One4All card).
 
I think it's 60p per MMS message usually? I think Voxi and SMARTY are the only networks that offer it inclusively?

I don't think it's that easy to accidentally send one considering it won't automatically resend a message as MMS unless you get it to (at least in Google Messages, not sure what happens if the user deactivates RCS).

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Ideally, you should set up a spend cap anyways though to prevent unwanted charges (although I think O2 even blocks just trying to check the balance on a One4All card).
True, although I don't usually remember if I'm using iMessage/RCS/SMS to message someone. If I message someone on WhatsApp or another chat app, I know it's always free, on a text I have to check.

I also had no idea MMS costed when I did, thought it was just the same as a text.

I have a £0 spend cap now that stops it, but spend caps didn't exist before. A spend cap would also only stop it if it's set to £0.

Really MMS should just be free but it's one of those situations where no-one cares enough to complain about it because no one uses it normally, and networks don't want to remove the charge/include it in texts allowance because they'd lose money from people who don't realise it costs.
 
MMS charges have probably hurt iMessage and RCS adoption here. Too easy to accidentally send one, I never even realised MMS's cost extra until I sent one years back, I suspect that's the same for most people.
You can switch it off on Apple devices by going to Settings > Messages and unticking MMS.

I don't think it's that easy to accidentally send one considering it won't automatically resend a message as MMS unless you get it to (at least in Google Messages, not sure what happens if the user deactivates RCS).

Shows an automatically resend as a text toggle turned off
I hate this so much. Apple has "send as SMS" so there's no excuse for Google not to do the same.
 
I think it's 60p per MMS message usually? I think Voxi and SMARTY are the only networks that offer it inclusively?

I don't think it's that easy to accidentally send one considering it won't automatically resend a message as MMS unless you get it to (at least in Google Messages, not sure what happens if the user deactivates RCS).

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Ideally, you should set up a spend cap anyways though to prevent unwanted charges (although I think O2 even blocks just trying to check the balance on a One4All card).
IIRC Vodafone offer it inclusive on their Xtra plans
 
Hmmm wonder when will the XR actually stops updates?
Not sure. It'll get all the iOS 18 ones. If it gets iOS 19 it'd be the longest supported iPhone ever (currently it's matching the 6s which got iOS 9 to 15).

If it doesn't get iOS 19 you'll probably still get some security updates on iOS 18.
 

iPhone 16 Pro randomly rebooting?​

You're not alone.​

:(
 
iOS 18.1 RC is out on both public and developer beta channels.
I’m looking forward to the AirPods Pro 2 enhancements. As someone with mild hearing loss I’m interested to see if/how it could help particularly in noisy environments. The rest of the time I’m happy for people to think I’m being ignorant 😉
 
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