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Mother of drowned boy wants to know why PCSO did not save him

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7007081.stm

Community suport officers (PCSOs) "did not stand by and watch" a 10-year-old boy drown, a police chief has said.


Jordon's mother Tracy Ganderton and stepfather Anthony, of Bluebell Avenue, Wigan, are demanding to know why the PCSOs did not try to rescue Jordon and why they did not give evidence at the inquest held by deputy West Manchester coroner Alan Walsh on Friday.

Mr Ganderton told the inquest: "I don't know why they didn't go in. I can't understand it.

"If I had been walking along a canal and seen a child drowning I would have jumped in.


I want to know why an 8 year girl and 10 year old boy were allowed to play unsupervised near water. Where were the parents?

They should be prosecuted for neglect - unfit parents looking to offload the blame.


Very sad that the boy drowned :(
 
Poor little soul, things like this could be avoided, my heart goes out to his sister who will be suffering most. I know if i had a little sister and in the same situation I would of done the same, instead of asking why what and how of the community officers the little boy should be on the headlines for a different reason! Praised for being a hero.
 
You may find it was something to do with Health & safely rules? but too stand by and do nothing how can they live with themselves. The risks come with the uniform whatever they are :nod:
 
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You may find it was something to do with Health & safely rules? but too stand by and do nothing how can they live with themselves. The risks come with the uniform whatever they are :nod:

Because they didn't know where in the lake he was - in other words, he was probably already dead when they arrived, and even if he wasn't the chances of finding him were remote in the extreme.

I'm with rruwalton - what the hell are 2 young children, a 10 year old and his YOUNGER sister doing playing unsupervised by a lake - or anywhere else for that matter.
 
Emergency services, even those highly trained in water rescue, have strict training and guidelines that govern what they should and should not do. This enables them to perform downright hazardous jobs with an acceptable (not zero) level of risk. PCSOs are neither members of an emergency service or highly trained. They might not even be able to swim.

If the PCSOs had arrived and seen the child in the water, then they would have attempted to rescue as any normal person would, as the fishermen actually did to save his sister. But the boy had become submerged.

But when they arrived, there was no sign of the poor lad. They did not see anyone drowning. So PCSOs then called for help. They could have gone in at random, they might have found the boy, or they might have got into difficulty themselves. The latter is much more likely.

Young Jordan is a hero, who died saving his little sister. They were playing unsupervised near water. Who allowed them to do so? Is a 10 year old child a suitable guardian for an 8 year old child? Or should they have had an adult, perhaps even a parent with them?

The PCSOs are just a target for the parents to lash out at, because they know, in their hearts, this tragety was avoidable.
 
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You may find it was something to do with Health & safely rules? but too stand by and do nothing how can they live with themselves. The risks come with the uniform whatever they are :nod:
Common sense more like. There is an old sand quarry near where I used to live and drownings were a regular occurrence as people ignored the No Swimming' signs. More than once this ended up a multiple fatality because the would be rescuer drowned as well.

How would the press have reported it if all the would be rescuers went in and drowned?
 
heh the reporters are making a feild day of this in any case, never liked reporters... they make money off tragedy which is sad if it was me who drowned lm sure there wouldnt be all this fuss, and for where the blame lies, no one is blameless in this respect everyone with kids has done something wrong from letting young kids go out on their own to leaving dangerous objects laying around...

if ppl wanna lay blame, blame the lack of safety at the spot they were...
 
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quote "Two anglers waded in and pulled Bethany to safety using their rods but Jordon became submerged.

The alarm was raised and the PCSOs arrived. Police said they could see no sign of Jordon in the water, so they radioed trained officers for help. " unquote

So the parents blame the PCSOs - I am sure the anglers would have saved the lad if they could.

I am still reeling over the fact the children were there at all. The parents have to live with the fact that they should have been with their children. The little girl's experience will haunt her for years to come.
 
I have to disagree with you there timeless....I think we as a nation are too quick to look for blame when something like this happens i.e people falling of cliffs that are not fenced off...If I had let my kids play near those cliffs it would have been MY fault.....

exactly, however another perspective is the fact that parents let their kids do what they want, the news states as much parents blame everyone else however dont we as a nation have a duty to actually teach our children of the dangers...

l live on and around farms and lve seen quite a few things l wish l had not, like a child nearly drowning in the pit where we scrape the muck.. no one teaches children of the dangers of such a thing regardless of the fact of how likely things are to happen everything needs to be examined, in any case before laying blame you have to assess why it was allowed to happen in the first place and what can be done to stop such things happening again because not all times are you able to keep an eye on ur child..
 
This really doesn't sound like the PCSOs fault. Even if they had been able to locate him rescuing a drowning person can be a dangerous business. :hrmph:
 
Well I have to agree with the view that the Support officers were certainly not at fault. Having arrived it appears by chance they seen no sign of the boy and he was under the water "somewhere" so the situation would be that the boy was dead. I can understand in their grief the parents lashing out but it not right to play the officers concerned.

Too many jumped on the knee-jerk bandwagon when interviewed on tv or sent in emails. The attitude was that they should have jumped in? Where? He was obviusly not going to be alive either. These folk claim anyone would jump in having been told by someone a boy was in a pool but the whereabouts is unknown (?) would not have been able to save him any more than the 2 involved here. People see the headline and as children are involved an emotional response will be forthcoming. In addtion I do not think that the media were too helpful in this either.
 
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