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Need help making a new PC

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Right i really want to make a New PC for Gaming. But I don't know what to look for in compents. I want to learn in what to look for so any advise helps. my price range would be around £600 max. I can reuse most of my current pc parts ram, cd rw drive, hdd (hopfully) thats what i can oly thing of.
 
for something every gamer would drool over ld expect a good £5000, however going by what was stated ld get a general specification of what you expect to play (which is generally posted on the outside of the boxes of games) in essence l would choose a higher spec GFX card and maybe CPU (depending on what you have) however depending on current ram and PSU there may have to be improvements, as l wouldnt run anything less than a 600W PSU, GFX can be pretty pricey as well so you may have to revise your estimate depending on what you wish to do with your system.
 
Waaaaaaaa £5000 :eek:. Ahh if only i have that much then i could make a god like pc. Ahh the joy i would have making that. Any ways OMG i just noticed your avatar is itachis sharingan...NICEEEE. Anyways my current pc is a few years old like 4 yrs and i can't play the games that i have even though it has the specs for it. I could just upgrade some parts probley the GPU. but if there is a new game that i want for the pc i would not be able to play it because my pc would just say no.
 
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LOL £5000! No way.. not unless it's gold plated haha :) . I have never spent more than £1000 and with that you can build a close to top-end gaming rig.

Thankfully these days you can build a gaming system for about £600 but it takes a lot of digging to find all the kit at the right price. The real key to saving your cash is not to get too carried away with expensive CPU's or PSU's. CPU power is not like it used to be, a top end CPU from two years ago can still hold its own in games today.

Likewise you can find cheap 500 or 600Watt PSU's for around £40 (just make sure it has 2 x PCIe connectors for your graphics card), sometimes you can even pay that and buy a cheap new case at the same time with a PSU inside (I'm guessing you can just recycle your old one?).

If you don't want to build it yourself then here is a good example of a sub-£600 rig that can run all of today's games with good detail, although you might need to turn off FSAA and lower the texture filtering.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/206287

Or this for under £500.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/206286

^ With that one I'd take out the graphics card, sell it on eBay, and then take what you have spare in your budget (should be enough) and try to buy an ATI 4890 graphics card for around £140. You can get a more modern 5830 for a bit of extra cash but I think that the 4890 gives you more FPS for your buck (need to look at the latest benchmarks first to be sure). Sorted.
 
actually, £5000 was a good estimate, my friend expects to spend that much but he is going top of the range on EVERYTHING, and that was his last estimate.

l still however reiterate that in order to recommend one needs to know the type of recommendations games he wishes to play are, l cant say Marks recommendations are bad but l feel its always worth contemplating room to move should new interesting games be released.

on an unrelated note to Shalala2, by the sounds of it your an anime fan ^_^, Naruto Shippuden is just one of many series lm collecting or have collected.. tho recently my sources havent been as good because they started getting **** about quality removing all the smaller releases which use Xvid etc, a good example would be one 26ep series which there was three torrents for, one at 4GB, another at 16GB, and a final one at 32GB... guess which one they removed!! (kinda peeved me off since most anime is around 24mins per ep, and all this HD/Bluray bs is pointless for animation, you wont notice much unless your looking for quality problems with a fine tooth comb)
 
Thanks for all the advice timeless and Mark.J. So all i meanly need to look for is cpu, psu (i think the one i have is less then 500), motherbroad that supports sata and ddr2 and a graphics card. and hopfully a good fan thats not a pain to put in and will reduced the nosie. Im not using the fan i have now I hate it with a passion.

Side note Yes i am an anime fan. Shippuden is good. And im guess that someone removed the 32GB torrent. You could always buy the DVD.
 
DDR2 is now very expensive to buy, DDR3 is the standard; I also would not skimp on the PSU, a decent one will give better system stability.

Have a look at Aria.com, they have pre-built gamer systems and also bundles for people upgrading the internals, but wanting to keep their current case.

£470 will currently get you a

Gladiator Asgard Intel I3 Dual Core OC 4.00GHz Gaming PC

- Intel I3 530 Dual Core Processor clocked at 4.00GHz
- Coolermaster Up-rated CPU Cooler
- Gigabyte H55M-UD2H Mainboard
- 4096MB of 1333MHz DDR3 Memory (Dual Channel)
- 1TB 7200rpm 32MB Cache Hard Disk Drive
- Sony 24x Multi-DVD
- Xigmatek Asgard High-Airflow Gaming Black Case
- OCZ 500W Silent StealthXstream Power Supply

You will need to add an OS; and it has 2 PCI-Express x16 slots if you want even better GFX later.

What are the specs of your old system??

Aria also has a forum where you can ask for advice from other users or the Aria tech staff.
 
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you guessed wrong, they deleted the 4gb one...

still most stuff l download tends to be the stuff that will never be licenced in the UK, theres so many amazing series out there that if fansub groups didnt sub and share we would never get to see which is sad.. but with how all groups are moving over to HD/Bluray stuff its making it harder for me because being on a low income not only can l not afford to buy the anime that is sold over here, but the fact that groups are tending to opt for quality and quantity l cant afford to download a series that will take 10 disks to burn.. still once anime comes to the uk in dubbed formats they tend to ruin it..

take Sailor moon, that series was completely changed even ep numbers were changed or melded together, then again it didnt bother me because l disliked that series, but at least Studio Ghibli made a stand when US studios butchered Valley of The Nausica.

back on topic tho, l am somewhat curious to your current spec (motherboard, ram speed etc)

(btw feel free to PM me, l find very few peeps in the uk to talk to about anime XD)


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2 PCI-Express x16 slots if you want even better GFX later.
lve always wanted to try SLI/Crossfire, tho l do hear it eats a little ram on occasion so it can share the cards resources also BOTH cards have to be EXACTLY the same to work, tho l havent tried it myself and cant speak with certainty l have heard that its not always good as its made out to be.

however for reference (for those who dont know the difference), there are two ways of using two gfx cards to expand gfx performence, one method is SLI which connects the cards up on the inside, which Nvida uses... then there is Crossfire which ATI uses (ATI is owned by AMD now) which connects the cards together on the outside of the system.

also l can vouch for the RAM prices, l had to replace mine recently... prices for DDR2 have doubled and are close to trippling from what l see each week when l work at my local comp shop (help out once a week so l get some of the latest price info)
 
looking at your post i'm kinda getting a rough idea in what to buy. As for my pc specs timeless

Motherboard: ASUS P5B-TMX-GB-SI
CPU: intel pentium D 2.80ghz
RAM: 2X 512mb SpecTek DDR2
HHD: Seagate SATA 320GB
Graphics : On borad card
PSU:HEC 250AR PTF
OS: Windows XP
Made by MESH. Their cases comes with a reset button where i work that a rare thing on a case.
 
by the looks of it you have this board

http://uk.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=J97UJny8SDGV7Vm1

while l cant say a whole lot at the moment it looks like you can go quad core but not as fast as l imagined it would allow.. (then again l havent kept up on the latest chips, lm more of an AMD fan)
 
If that's the correct board then you could upgrade the CPU with either of these:

Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.40GHz,1066FSB,L2:2X4MB)

Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.66GHz,1066FSB,L2:4MB)

In fact I think as a gamer you could probably fit the more modern Core 2 Duo E8600 in but I would only recommend this if you are familiar with BIOS settings. That is because your Motherboard would not detect the E8400, 8500 or 8600 CPU correctly and you'd need to fiddle to get the manual settings right.

I don't know what PSU you have there but for a 2007 system I suspect it could not cope with the latest cards even if your motherboard itself can. So you'd probably still need a newer 500/600Watt PSU.

Getting 2 x 2GB DDR2's DIMMs shouldn't be too tough.

I'd go with an ATI/AMD 4890 for the GPU still because I'm not sure whether that motherboard is new enough to give the latest generation of cards (i.e. 5XXX series) the best stability.

Also modern hard disk drives are a lot faster than the 2007 models and they're a lot cheaper too, you can get a big performance jump from just getting a new one of those without risking your old files (i.e. dual boot install).
 
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Aria are a bit naughty calling that a gamers system as it is without a graphics card which needs to be added lol

unless they mean it can play solitaire :laugh:

The joke is on you, i3, i5, and i7 cpu's all have (a fairly) powerful built in gfx.

You can add a more powerful gfx card if/when you need it.
 
I assumed you were extracting the urine.

I still suspect that the built in gfx will be better than anything bought 4 years ago.
 
not necessarily from what lve seen... plus if its on board it will be much slower as it would have to share ram, l wouldnt go onboard gfx for games.
 
The integrated GPU is not built into all of the i3, i5 and i7 series, as I understood it from reviews they only recently added that when the first i5's were released? I believe that it is also there to take advantage of the new hybrid solutions where the integrated GPU can work alongside an external one to boost performance.

I don't know much more about it but sometimes it's a good idea to get a board with an integrated solution so that if your main GPU fails then you have something else to test against. GPU's do love to fail, especially when purchased from Nvidia :) .
 
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Last year my X1950 Pro failed when transferring the mobo to a new case!!:crap:
 
l thought my saphire X1050 failed last year, turns out it was my PCI-E slots since my friend it using the card now, l myself am now using a Radeon HD 4650 w/1GB onboard DDR3.
 
I tried it with 2 different mobo's and 2 different psu's; dead as a dodo.
 
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