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New router - advice please

By reading a number of different threads on this forum three different wireless routers seem to get a lot of support:

(1) Netgear DG834G
(2) Thomson ST-585v6
(3) 2wire 2700 HG (unlocked)

By all accounts these sound as though they should hold sync better (and possibly higher) than my current 3com device (which is about 3-4 years old - and pre-dates ADSL2+).

Also from this forum I've discovered that some of these can be sourced from dsldepot as B-grade stock for about 20 quid, and I've discovered that digidave sell refurbished versions for about 20-30 quid.

I've got a fairly high loss line - 62-63 dB - and an ADSLMax sync rate that gives a reasonanly steady 1000 IP profile (have briefly had 1250, and ocassionally a frustrating few days at 750 - at least it not as dire as the 500 I used to drop back to :crap:).

Is buying B-grade or refurb'ed routers a safe bet ? (or am I better to go with new items).

From the scant ino I've given above - is there one of the three options above that stands out above the others ?

I'm just a canny Scot looking for any advice I can get before I let the moths out of my wallet :smilet:

Cheers - TP
 
I'm still slightly tempted to get the newer version of the BT Business hub 2700HGV (the one that can only be 'unlocked' using the DNS fix) off ebay :eek: myself to see if it is really as good as people say it is, but I've already got 2 Netgears :) and a Safecom :p )

Someone's done a write up about theres here:- http://logikir100.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm


I've seen mixed reviews of the dg834g on very long lines, some really positive,and a few complaining that it loses sync all the time :shrug:
 
Have you removed the ring wire from the socket or thought about a filtered faceplate as these can both improve signal levels on marginal lines ?? The first of these certainly fits your last paragraph ;)

Thanks butler - also appreciate the humour in the response.

Yes removed the ringwire a few months ago - can confirm that it made a big difference (around 200-300 kbps improvement on a regular basis).

Before removing it very rarely achieved an IP profile above 500 (you coud guarantee at least one sync at below 1152 every couple of days). Now, as I said above, sync rate spend majority of it's time above 1152 (in the 1300-1500 region) :).

If only I could get it to settle regularly above 1440 I'd be able to a steady 1250 profile - and there aren't many on this forum would see that as bliss :p - but it would more than make me happy since I was once told that my line would never even support 500 kpbs fixed rate broadband.

TP
 
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You may still be able to get some improvement by fitting a faceplate filter to the master socket (or wiring the extensions through a plug in filter connected to the master) and connecting the router direct to it.

With the ring wire disconnected I still connect between 300 - 600kbps faster in the test socket (ie with all my extensions disconnected) than with the extensions pluged in, more annoyingly for me having the extensions connected (sans a central filter) causes enough errors to result in a fair amount of packet loss! However, my telephone extensions are very long, run closely parallel to mains cable in places :eek: and some are connected as spurs - which I wonder if it might be causing echos at ADSL's higher frequencies. One of these day I'll get around to sorting the wiring out and running more ethernet, I haven't used most of the sockets since getting dect phones anyway.
 
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