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No phone line yet - what chance of fibre?

Hi,

I'm considering buying a new build (one of 12) which is too far from its FTTC cab to get any benefit from VDSL so checker says that the likely speeds will be ~3Mbit down.

There are no phone lines connected to the development yet (not even showhome) and it's rural so I presume the ~3Mbit/s that the ADSL address checker gives is a guesstimate and possibly even based on crow-flies distances rather than real roads/cable routes.

I'm therefore worried about paying BT to bring a copper wire to my new home then finding the connection to be too slow and having to pay to get out of contract then move to satellite or something.

Does anyone know if I have any chance of persuading BT/OpenReach not to ever bring copper up the hill but rather to FTTP me from day 1?

It's very frustrating that in 2015 they will run a copper cable for 2 miles then charge me or the public purse in some years' time to lay fibre! The sensible thing would be to lay fibre from day 1 and I'm happy to pay the 'gap'.

So, any ideas for how I can avoid BT laying 1850s telephony then charging me to replace it? I have about 3 months to play with here. Happy to PM the postal code and address to anyone who can help.

Best,
Arleyguy
 
It's not in Froyle, Hampshire is it by any chance ;) Simply that we have a new development here which is going to struggle to get much if any fixed line broadband and nothing appears to be planned to rectify it.

You may be able to glean some information from the local authority website - have a look around for pages about the broadband rollout, and see if you can track down one where you can put your postcode in and see what is planned.

If you say what area it is generally, others might be able to recommend an alternative provider e.g. a wireless provider, if there is one.

Paying for a private circuit might be an option, but you could be looking at tens of thousands of pounds. You might be able to get together with the other 11 householders and put in a few thousand each for a solution, but then the other 11 might not have any interest in it.

Have you asked the developers what provision they have made for broadband?

The short answer: if broadband speeds are important to you, don't buy. Find somewhere else where you *know* you'll be able to get good speeds from day one.
 
Thanks DTMark - sound advice. It's in rural Perthshire so it's beyond wireless providers so if the broadband isn't good then I'll go for satellite.

The seller isn't interested because although we'll be the first occupants, the bank is now selling them because the original developer went pop in the property crash.
 
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As per signature, we use 4G (rural, only ADSL available @ 2 Meg) - we have a choice of 20 down, 20 up with Vodafone or 50 down, 50 up with EE. When the EE website is working, and you can buy data. Which isn't very often ;)

Or, about 15 down 3 up with Three 3G. All are expensive compared to fixed line if you use a lot of data e.g. streaming movies. On the other hand, fixed line couldn't stream movies here anyway.

So if you do have your heart set on buying there, suggest you look into 4G, then 3G, then satellite, in that order, but be *very* sure you're prepared to forego fixed line broadband before you buy. I've been there - and moved again just six months later.
 
Thanks, I'm on the edge of EE and Vodafone 4G but a roof antenna and 4G simcard router should do it. Do you have experience with such things, can i PM you if so?
 
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