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There is no truth in the rumour that hundreds of confused Americans are wandering around Stratford looking for Shakespeare's birthplace, and that the local "massage parlour", anticipating this, has changed its name to "Anne Hath-it-away's Cottage".
 
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:/ dont miss a thing? god someone shoot me now let me miss it already lm not interested LOL.
 
Thanks for the link Bob. Now I can work out what times NOT to watch BBC1. I'm fed up with the olympics already :(
 
the only thing l have been interested in tho is the counterfeit gear given to one team, the Korean flag mix up and the Bell End issue Jeremy Hunt had yesterday where the bell end shot off nearly hitting members of the public.. for me thats the most interest lve had in the Olympics as it amused the hell out of me, they dont need us to mess things up and protest etc.. they are messing things up themselves and it all started with G4S.
 
Come on thats being a bit unfair, sure there have been balls ups, but ANY Olympics i look forward to, not for the hyped events but the sports that the rest of the time get no coverage at all.
 
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LOL Good editing into a speech that sounds like something Boris would ramble off for real. About the only member of government left that is at least entertaining.
 
Come on thats being a bit unfair, sure there have been balls ups, but ANY Olympics i look forward to, not for the hyped events but the sports that the rest of the time get no coverage at all.

l dont think so, lve no problems with the olympics personally themselves its the organisers and the government. they are what makes it a farce. take the dedicated olympics lanes, cabbies are likely loosing business due to not being able to use them government pulled rank and banned a protest, they didnt listen to their concerns.. then you have them giving contracts to companies who cannot keep their end of the bargain.. and l heard they had the NHS featured in the opening ceremonies.. what was being celebrated is being dismantled.. its a farce along with all those huge companies getting tax breaks for sponsoring them.. l should note that ATOS is one of them.. and considering how many disabled ppl are getting shafted by them its a disgrace!!

suffice to say, in essence l agree the olympics are something amazing bringing many nationalities together, its the organisers and the other stuff l have problems with regardless of my interest in sport it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
 
Oh things like that and the whole ticketing balls ups with half empty arenas was inevitable with this country, whoever was in charge. The actual sport itself though and some of the sports we otherwise rarely get to see on television though is what i was defending.

The Olympics where ever its held always causes controversy the event in that regard and where it is held cant win nowadays.

If its held in a country like ours its commercialised the poop out of and all about money. Hold it in a third world country or what some deem to be a less "free" country and its criticised for infringing on peoples rights.

Some of the points you hit on with regards to balls ups and government are fair, the whole security thing though isnt entirely their fault. They put their faith in one of the worlds largest private security firms and they let them down. Also moaning about the NHS being featured in the opening ceremony is a bit weak, the way i saw the ceremony was a celebration of things in this country past and present.

I personally think the whole ticket allocation thing is the biggest farce which has occurred, that and the cost of some tickets and them not clamping down on that. (again comes down to money and greed). The Olympic traffic lanes are a pain for the everyday joe in London also, but they had to do something with regards to the traffic system. Could they had done things better IE only have those lanes off limits/closed at certain times? (in fact i dunno they may even do that i dont live in London) Possibly yes. Does it deserve several pages in newspapers and people moaning constantly, personally i say no.
 
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to be honest the G4S fiasco should have been more apparent way before this year.. when your arranging such a large event you need to be sure everything is sorted in good time and thats where my issue is.. things have been so messed up and just like with allot of legislation our condem government has touted the only thought thats gone into it is "greed".

a good example would be the workfare scheme.. its recently come to my attention that those close to lian Duncan Smith (two tories l should add) were making millions from the face that is the back to work scheme. they created a company specifically to cash in on it. then the NHS reforms Langsley also has his fingers in private firms that lobbied for the privatisations in fact his wife is linked to said private firms that were lobbying for the changes. lve said it elsewhere but our politicians are too self involved and whenever legislation is generally concerned they tend to conflict with their personal interests which is morally wrong just like Camerons outburst about dodgy tax schemes recently, after all you cant have a go at someone for their arrangements (aka name and shame) without practising what you preach.. the fact no legislation is in the works just speaks volumes.
 
to be honest the G4S fiasco should have been more apparent way before this year.. when your arranging such a large event you need to be sure everything is sorted in good time and thats where my issue is.. things have been so messed up and just like with allot of legislation our condem government has touted the only thought thats gone into it is "greed".

The government though in that regard are in a no win. The press dont tell you if they were having regular meetings to make sure that company was capable or not. If you are the government and im the security firm and for years you are asking me "Are you ready?" and i keep replying "Yes, we are doing this and that" and when the time comes all my promises turn out to be hot air, thats hardly your fault is it? Some people are saying they should had just used the Army anyway, which is stupid IMO for a few reasons, one being there wouldnt be enough of em (AGAIN) and two being some bloke decked out in camo gear with a big this will blow anything to bits automatic rifle, doesnt scream friendly welcome to the games.

As a business decision the only ones to blame for the cock up are the firm that was given the contract and failed to provide what was promised, not those that contracted them. Will not stop the media trying to spin it that way though.

a good example would be the workfare scheme.. its recently come to my attention that those close to lian Duncan Smith (two tories l should add) were making millions from the face that is the back to work scheme. they created a company specifically to cash in on it.

Not going down that road with you again, ive said my bit, the ways they are treating some unemployed and disabled is scummy but its not just this government that have done that. There have been all types of brain dead schemes in the past no matter who or what party is in charge.

then the NHS reforms Langsley also has his fingers in private firms that lobbied for the privatisations in fact his wife is linked to said private firms that were lobbying for the changes. lve said it elsewhere but our politicians are too self involved and whenever legislation is generally concerned they tend to conflict with their personal interests which is morally wrong just like Camerons outburst about dodgy tax schemes recently, after all you cant have a go at someone for their arrangements (aka name and shame) without practising what you preach.. the fact no legislation is in the works just speaks volumes.

Again its nothing new, the NHS is always tinkered with in some manner, the labour party at certain points were giving it more cash than it actually needed so much so that in areas they basically had stock piles of money they either didnt or couldnt spend. While that sounds wonderful of them at first, its also one of the many reasons the country is in the state it is in now.

I dont go in for all this bash this party, bash that party or the so called news and media spoon fed perception of any of them. We havent had decent leadership here for well over 20 years no matter who or what party has held the reins. Because its been so long its gonna take a hell of a lot of work and intellect to sort things out....... Looking at parliament as it is i dont think there is a single party or individual which has the common sense to do it, we are probably doomed for at least another 20 years until the current crop of jack a$$es are all retired and gone. Whoever is in charge they are involved in behind the scenes shenanigans be it the Labour party, Conservative party, or whoever.

I can understand why you are worked up at some things which are happening but its nothing out of the ordinary anyway.
 
Really enjoying the Olympic's so far, despite an early cloud of pessimism hanging over my head. Just a shame we're not winning more medals.
 
Really enjoying the Olympic's so far, despite an early cloud of pessimism hanging over my head. Just a shame we're not winning more medals.

Indeed, cock ups happen and happen where ever its held, no country in the world can pull off an event that size without any glitches.

I think its a shame some people and the media highlight the niggles rather than the positives and in addition as is always the case in this country point the finger of blame EVERYWHERE.

Like you Mark ive been enjoying it for what it should be enjoyed for, the sporting events.
 
The government though in that regard are in a no win. The press dont tell you if they were having regular meetings to make sure that company was capable or not. If you are the government and im the security firm and for years you are asking me "Are you ready?" and i keep replying "Yes, we are doing this and that" and when the time comes all my promises turn out to be hot air, thats hardly your fault is it? Some people are saying they should had just used the Army anyway, which is stupid IMO for a few reasons, one being there wouldnt be enough of em (AGAIN) and two being some bloke decked out in camo gear with a big this will blow anything to bits automatic rifle, doesnt scream friendly welcome to the games.

As a business decision the only ones to blame for the cock up are the firm that was given the contract and failed to provide what was promised, not those that contracted them. Will not stop the media trying to spin it that way though.
while l agree things ultimately end up the companies responsibility we are talking about a whole new ball game here, the money given to them wasnt private, it was "public money" which l doubt we will ever see back.. in fact here is a story about said company G4S it was in the news recently.

basically said company was security for a court, it was their job to keep things like weapons out of the court room, however the criminal (who happened to be a paedophile) was able to sneak a knife in and threaten to kill himself.. what if he had turned that knife elsewhere? maybe its just one example but from those l know who have worked for the company seem to to hate it. and while some knowing the above story would have wished the pedo took his life, the fact remains a weapon made it into a court where G4S was in charge.

Not going down that road with you again, ive said my bit, the ways they are treating some unemployed and disabled is scummy but its not just this government that have done that. There have been all types of brain dead schemes in the past no matter who or what party is in charge.
l can vouch for the other schemes however back in Labours time they never made jobseekers work more than 16hours which worked out to around the minimum wage.. which l have no problem with doing. that being said one got an extra £15 a week unlike today where money is going down yet the work one is expected to do for free goes up.

Again its nothing new, the NHS is always tinkered with in some manner, the labour party at certain points were giving it more cash than it actually needed so much so that in areas they basically had stock piles of money they either didnt or couldnt spend. While that sounds wonderful of them at first, its also one of the many reasons the country is in the state it is in now.
no its not, the reason we are in this situation is greed, the NHS didnt fail the banks did. every idea thats come out of our current governments mouth seems to make more money for the rich!! who are making money now out of the privatisations? the lobbyists.
 
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l can vouch for the other schemes however back in Labours time they never made jobseekers work more than 16hours which worked out to around the minimum wage.. which l have no problem with doing. that being said one got an extra £15 a week unlike today where money is going down yet the work one is expected to do for free goes up.

That i can tell you for a fact is wrong i have a family member who was forced to suffer the New Deal which involved working for nothing (except travel expenses) far longer than that per week. And also one day a week had to go do a silly NVQ course even though they had a university degree in the same field....... Now thats insane and a waste of money.

As to the rest, its easy as i said to point the finger of blame, regarding security mess up at the games. But what would you had done? How would you of gone about ensuring it were policed properly without bringing in private security firms and spending tax payer money? I dont care much what was in the news and without being rude perhaps that is half the issue, try not to believe everything the Daily Mail or other sensationalised so called journalism has to say. We have yet to see if the security firm/s concerned wil have to foot the bill/pay anything back. To state otherwise right now is once again nothing more than media grabbing headlines.

The NHS argument is fruitless and pointless, that has gone through ups and downs, rich and poor periods for decades. Its no better or worse. Doesnt really matter who is in charge of it it goes through good and bad periods. In fact id argue as someone that recently had to go to see a specialist the system has improved compared to the ordeal i experienced 10 years ago. I certainly didnt have to wait as long and communication and being able to check appointment times etc has improved 10 fold since i last had any beyond the norm of GP visit.

PS...... And also not to sound rude but you are beginning to sound like this is a political soapbox to bash the conservative party, which to be honest i have no issue with, i dont think much of Camerloon and chums myself.
HOWEVER, at the same time though i also realise the labour party are equally useless. In fact i reckon the country would be in even bigger poop if we had Mr shouty (i dunno what i would do i just disagree with everything) Milliband in charge with Ms (i want to launch a coo against the entire male population) Harman as second in command sidekick. I can only imagine the right nappy mess the country would be. With him not knowing if he should or shouldnt spend money and Harman not giving a flying toss and instead having more secret meetings discussing how her and her feminist followers can grab more power. SO i hope you will excuse me if im not so quick to agree with you or the media.

Its easy to look at the present and say its bad and blame it all on one party or individual. Wouldnt matter if Labour, Conservative Party, Lib Dems or even some minority like the Greens were in power, i have no doubt issues with the games would of still happened, the NHS and whatever they decided to do with it would had also caused outrage and so much more. Its the nature of government and has been for decades.

PPS...... The postal service, think if we are bashing parties you will find its the Labour party that screwed that also to start (first with privatisation plans then the whole consignier <<< or whatever it was/is called thing and more).

Our current government is crap i entirely agree........ Was the last lot better or would things be better if they won again.......... LIKE F**K would they be.
 
That i can tell you for a fact is wrong i have a family member who was forced to suffer the New Deal which involved working for nothing (except travel expenses) far longer than that per week. And also one day a week had to go do a silly NVQ course even though they had a university degree in the same field....... Now thats insane and a waste of money.
looks like we have a conflict of what is and isnt true, the reason l know it is is because l was on new deal more than once, in fact l believe l was on it 4 times first was work placement and the rest were training based and every time there was a £15 extra bonus. the years l attended these were between 2000 and 2006. suffice to say lve actual experience of new deal :D

As to the rest, its easy as i said to point the finger of blame, regarding security mess up at the games. But what would you had done? How would you of gone about ensuring it were policed properly without bringing in private security firms and spending tax payer money? I dont care much what was in the news and without being rude perhaps that is half the issue, try not to believe everything the Daily Mail or other sensationalised so called journalism has to say. We have yet to see if the security firm/s concerned wil have to foot the bill/pay anything back. To state otherwise right now is once again nothing more than media grabbing headlines.
tbh, l dont care about the news at all.. these days its just a bunch of drivel, these days bias seems to be the name of the game. we daily see things like recession this recession that, deficit this and deficit that. and the papers propagate the reasons as to why we have double dipped.. seems the poor are at fault along with the NHS. however in essence very few give a rats ass about the public its all about pushing opinions like scroungers and labelling those who need help as dirty and lazy.

The NHS argument is fruitless and pointless, that has gone through ups and downs, rich and poor periods for decades. Its no better or worse. Doesnt really matter who is in charge of it it goes through good and bad periods. In fact id argue as someone that recently had to go to see a specialist the system has improved compared to the ordeal i experienced 10 years ago. I certainly didnt have to wait as long and communication and being able to check appointment times etc has improved 10 fold since i last had any beyond the norm of GP visit.
then l venture to say we are in a bad period.. and you say its better than 10 years ago? waiting lists now are worse than when labour was in power, in fact since some places are now being run privately and turn away patients!!

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/new...ce_in_hackney_refuses_him_treatment_1_1464678

PS...... And also not to sound rude but you are beginning to sound like this is a political soapbox to bash the conservative party, which to be honest i have no issue with, i dont think much of Camerloon and chums myself.
HOWEVER, at the same time though i also realise the labour party are equally useless. In fact i reckon the country would be in even bigger poop if we had Mr shouty (i dunno what i would do i just disagree with everything) Milliband in charge with Ms (i want to launch a coo against the entire male population) Harman as second in command sidekick. I can only imagine the right nappy mess the country would be. With him not knowing if he should or shouldnt spend money and Harman not giving a flying toss and instead having more secret meetings discussing how her and her feminist followers can grab more power. SO i hope you will excuse me if im not so quick to agree with you or the media.
theres a slightly common misconception here. while l agree Labour had its faults things were generally better under them. in fact from what lve seen they were actually pulling us out of recession and there was significantly more work than there was now. however it seems every time the Conservatives are in power unemployment soars.. regardless l dont care for blame its not constructive and l just feel that choosing the lesser of said evils..

Its easy to look at the present and say its bad and blame it all on one party or individual. Wouldnt matter if Labour, Conservative Party, Lib Dems or even some minority like the Greens were in power, i have no doubt issues with the games would of still happened, the NHS and whatever they decided to do with it would had also caused outrage and so much more. Its the nature of government and has been for decades.
l dont dispute that completely, tho lm sure we would have seen more police there rather than private companies.

PPS...... The postal service, think if we are bashing parties you will find its the Labour party that screwed that also to start (first with privatisation plans then the whole consignier <<< or whatever it was/is called thing and more).
equally they didnt push millions into poverty..

Our current government is crap i entirely agree........ Was the last lot better or would things be better if they won again.......... LIKE F**K would they be.
we will never know, but one thing l do know is we were pulling out of recession before they left regardless of my dislike of labour.
 
1) I can only go by what happened to a relative on the New Deal (you may be right on the £15 in addition to travel expenses, you are not right about it only being 16 hours a week though, they were doing 9am-5pm each day except a wednesday when they went off on their NVQ course which was 10am-3pm)
2) My experience of the NHS is better than it was 10 years ago back then i had 6 months wait, this time it wasnt even 6 weeks. I had to have a scan on both occasions, 10 years ago i had to wait another 3 months after that 6 month wait for the scan, this time around it was done right there on the day, sure i had to wait nearly 2 hours with a lot of others but 2 hours Vs 3 months, no contest.
3) Police numbers would had been cut under a labour government just as they have been under a conservative one. In fact while we are on the subject of policing shake-ups/mess ups. Was it not the labour government that introduced the idea of what i call traffic wombles (the mob that close a road for hours everytime someone scratches their cars paint) and useless community (no real powers of arrest, chav billy can abuse em all they wish) policing??? Like i said doesnt matter whos been in charge or is in charge the country has been a mess for at least 20 years.
4) Id argue they did push Millions into poverty, nearly the whole time Labour where in power unemployment increased. Thats why silly schemes like new deal had to be brought in in the first place. The cycle now continues with the current government as the country simply can not afford to fund un-necessary things as it once did..... However thats no compliment to the conservative party as they still seem to be wasting money on things that could be avoided...... Troops in Afghanistan STILL, and to be a bit more on topic giving the likes of BT million to spend on half baked FTTC broadband. Again both equally idiotic in some of their decisions
5) Pulling out of recession under Labour? Im not sure an economist would agree with you. Regardless, which party put the country in the recession in the first place...... OH Opps!

Finally im not gonna address anything more politics related, its a boring load of hogwash, which in addition has became ill informed and brain washed nonsense by the press. NO PARTY IN THIS COUNTRY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME would do a decent job running it.
If you want to be in favour of the Labour party, Conservative party or in fact any of them and think they are so wonderfull thats up to you. I think ive made it clear i think they are all equally useless, and have made it clear any negative or positive point you or anyone makes about a party i can counter with an opposing view. A debate (even though it isnt a debate just a wee wee match) like that is as pointless as them squabbling in parliament. Boring, childish, pathetic, and ridiculous. It wasnt what this thread was for and soap box dancing in general just makes me yawn.
 
heh l was just continuing a debate which side tracked. but all l can say is from everything lve read the lesser of said evils will be who l vote for. however the main problem l see these days is apathy and those that seem to repeat what the press says day in day out which seems what most seem to talk about in some way or form.

regardless all l can say is the only way we are going to improve things is by spending money.. that means creating new jobs and getting ppl to part with their money. in turn things will get cheaper and it will propagate into the economy unless some wealthy twot moves it out of the country via some tax deal they have with the inland revenue.. which is why ld like to see the robin hood tax implemented..
 
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