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One in Five Think ISPs Should Impose Restrictions on Illegal P2P

carrot63

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I'd agree; there wasn't an option to actively disagree with any of the measures, which I suspect would have been the most popular option. "Don't know" doesn't cut it.
 

Mark.J

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True but that wasn't the purpose of the poll, it needed to remain in context and reflect the limited “best of a bad bunch” style choices that ISPs were being given because there really isn’t a “no” option for them. The idea was to see what people would choose if given the same limited scope. Obviously if ISPs could take the “no” rout then they, like many consumers, probably would, but it’s not a choice they’re being given. I reflected that in the summary.

I probably should of added a second Yes/No poll below asking "Do you think something really needs to be done?" but unfortunately thought of that too late. I'll build that separate question into another survey this year instead, probably following the final Digital Britain report.
 

otester

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True but that wasn't the purpose of the poll, it needed to remain in context and reflect the limited “best of a bad bunch” style choices that ISPs were being given because there really isn’t a “no” option for them. The idea was to see what people would choose if given the same limited scope. Obviously if ISPs could take the “no” rout then they, like many consumers, probably would, but it’s not a choice they’re being given. I reflected that in the summary.

I probably should of added a second Yes/No poll below asking "Do you think something really needs to be done?" but unfortunately thought of that too late. I'll build that separate question into another survey this year instead, probably following the final Digital Britain report.
This is an artificially created 'limited' scope.

ISP's could simply refuse, rally the people, organise a huge protest and end this once and for all. If we truely are a democratic country then the people would be the decider.

You say this as if we live in an autocracy, I still believe we have the power (if we choose) to end this corruption.
 

Mark.J

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It certainly feels like an autocracy at times and no matter how much opposition there is the government still seems inclined to force through a tougher outcome.
 

otester

Top Member
It certainly feels like an autocracy at times and no matter how much opposition there is the government still seems inclined to force through a tougher outcome.
I think if people actually read some of the bills that are passed they'd be outraged.

For example anyone who disagrees with the government is legally a terrorist and can be shipped off to Gitmo. In America you can be legally executed for being one, trial by jury is being phased out, exactly what Hitler did after he realised juries weren't convicting people for breaking his stupid 'laws'.

I have noticed more people are beginning to listen to the once-known-as 'conspiracy theorists' and the warnings of 1984, but my question is whether the uptake is quick enough to stop this before it gets out of hand.

Just the quotes alone from famous people/politicians should scare the **** out of them.
 

carrot63

Pro Member
True but that wasn't the purpose of the poll, it needed to remain in context and reflect the limited “best of a bad bunch” style choices that ISPs were being given because there really isn’t a “no” option for them. .
OK Mark, fair enough. But that limitation should really have been reflected in the question being asked, not least because the press occasionally do quote from such surveys - the Phorm one was widely quoted. Do you really want to be responsible for headlines in the Mail that read "20.7% of Brits think ISPs should tackle repeated illegal file sharing by imposing restrictions upon P2P access", because shorn of context, that's how it would read.
 

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One in Five Think ISPs Should Impose Restrictions on Illegal P2P
should have had another option imho

* its not the job of an ISP to police the web.
 

Kits

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As a customer of an ISP that is restricted in speed every weekend due to the p2p traffic and ilegal file sharers I think ISPs should limit them to slower speeds without limiting those who stay well within the limits of the package selected.

Why should someone who is paying for 45GB a month but never goes over 25GB a month be restricted down to less than 2meg when those who do all this file sharing tend to be those who are able to get max speed and still end up faster connection than me.
 

timeless

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one in 5 think ISPs should impose restrictions on illegal P2P downloads...

well those one in 5 prolly dont know exactly what P2P means or even what the hell it is.. but anything with the statement illegal in must be wrong... or at least thats the general opinions lm getting from those l have talked with about this subject (even quoted this post lol)
 

otester

Top Member
As a customer of an ISP that is restricted in speed every weekend due to the p2p traffic and ilegal file sharers I think ISPs should limit them to slower speeds without limiting those who stay well within the limits of the package selected.

Why should someone who is paying for 45GB a month but never goes over 25GB a month be restricted down to less than 2meg when those who do all this file sharing tend to be those who are able to get max speed and still end up faster connection than me.
This really applies to 'unlimited' packages, and any company which provides this type of package without the structure to take it deserves what it gets, either be honest with customer or face the consequences (aka. heavy use).

I casually ram 150GB down my line on average with a 3Mb connection, so we aren't always the fastest. This month I have done about 10GB a day so far. :laugh:

I have noticed the ones that criticise P2P have never figured out how to exploit its wonders properly.
 

Bob2002

ULTIMATE Member
Most apps don't go into the GB region so I assume you're downloading video, but even a DVD will typically come in at around 4GB (which I suppose could leave Blu-Ray content ?). I'm just curious, where do you find the time to use all the material you download ? :shrug:
 

otester

Top Member
Most apps don't go into the GB region so I assume you're downloading video, but even a DVD will typically come in at around 4GB (which I suppose could leave Blu-Ray content ?).
-DVD is ~700MB (re-encoded, no quality loss).
-A season of SD480p TV Show can range between ~1-10GB.
-20 minute HD720p Simpsons/Southpark episode is ~600MB.
-1hr HD720p documentary is ~2-3GB.
-1.5-2.5 HD720p movie is ~4.5-8GB and a HD1080p is ~8-14GB.

I'm just curious, where do you find the time to use all the material you download ? :shrug:
Overall I work uni/retail 4 days a week and I am 18.


(Admins: Hope referencing the related files doesn't break any rules, if any such ones exist, if so sorry.)
 
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