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iwe

Casual Member
Found Ghost also, they are supplied by STRUCTURED COMMUNICATIONS.
I see something interesting with their network. They are having big spikes after midnight few times a week. But other then that they are aveg. 26.82 ms and 0.07% packet loss.
 

BigAlbert

Regular Member
That's fantastic data iwe, I'm not sure it makes the choice any easier, AA would be my choice if they didn't have data caps and were sensibly priced. Vodafone looks interesting but there's so many bad reviews which puts me off. Zen looks reasonable although I'm not sure about the packet loss, possibly not a big deal for less data assuming these links are being pushed. Your data does rule out Sky and many others in my opinion with the latency and packet loss
 

iwe

Casual Member
It was interesting, I couldn't find the right ASN for Aquiss, found one with 512 IPs to look into it, but no data coming from there.
Zen is in pole position for me, Ghost is expensive compared with others, but good performer. I am also interested in trying out Virgin when I move next month. My current location is great on Virgin.
 

timeless

ULTIMATE Member
Staff member
Volunteer Mod
never been a great fan of virgin, that said lve never been in an area where its own cables were, but from my limited experience (which admittedly is a while ago now) their traffic shaping was annoying, always so slow at peak times.
 

BigAlbert

Regular Member
Anyone got any thoughts or comparisons for idNet, if I'm to believe the marketing hype their 'gamer' sounds fantastic, especially "Your data will be given priority at the exchange " - is that even possible over a BT backhaul connection ?
 

TTJJ

Casual Member
View attachment 190

Data from the company I work at, sampling from yesterdya 11am until today 11am. 24h average, country wide.
Latency & Packetloss.
Sample size... is big. Eg. BT peak times reach 76 Gbps, Virgin 110 Gbps, etc. This is all consumer level data.
Based in London.
I feel like for KCOM this isn't accurate going forward. It's based on users of the ADSL2 packages which are no longer available. Their FTTP service is excellent and offers pings of only a few ms.
 

BigAlbert

Regular Member
maddenlol just wondering how you're getting on with your ping levels into GGB - any good news / progress ?
 

maddenlol

Casual Member
i had an dlm reset interleaving is still showing as enabled. ggb still looking in it no updates yet , got an update now ,
I have checked the profile and the reset did not take affect as DLM is still showing the profile as of the 8th Jan.

Its likely a scenario still exists where DLM feels the need to keep interleaving enabled at this time.

We have seen this before and its unfortunately a waiting game to see if this is removed from the line.

Keep the line in sync and i will check this Monday when the office re opens.
 
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BigAlbert

Regular Member
maddenlol so your ping is still at 21 ms to reach GGB ? interleave took about 2 days to be removed from my line but perhaps this might vary depending on what the DLM thinks about your line quality. I guess your router isn't showing the stats for the interleave depth ? fortunately with my router I can see what's happening with interleaving.
As GGB said don't reboot or power cycle your router as this will effect what the DLM does i.e. if the DSLAM loses sync from you rebooting your router it'll likely think your connection is unstable and likely keep interleaving at the same level.
 

BigAlbert

Regular Member
I'm getting curious about how an ISP performs when connecting outside of the UK, it would be useful for comparison if someone would post the output from the two commands below - run in a DOS command window. One is a US server and the other is a Spanish server.

tracert 149.28.112.244
tracert 155.133.247.155
 

bukem909

Member
I'm on Vodafone Broadband and based in West London. Here are my stats:

Bash:
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo traceroute -I  185.60.112.157
traceroute to 185.60.112.157 (185.60.112.157), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.631 ms  0.698 ms  0.809 ms
 2  host-212-158-xxx-xxx.dslgb.com (212.158.xxx.xxx)  6.108 ms  6.429 ms  6.596 ms
 3  63.130.104.198 (63.130.104.198)  8.227 ms  8.153 ms  8.128 ms
 4  lonap-ix.blizzardonline.net (5.57.81.160)  9.344 ms  9.492 ms  9.642 ms
 5  ae1-br01-eqld5.as57976.net (137.221.79.33)  15.361 ms  15.316 ms  15.435 ms
 6  et-0-0-2-br02-eqam1.as57976.net (137.221.65.91)  15.320 ms  13.737 ms  13.441 ms
 7  et-0-0-67-pe01-eqam1.as57976.net (137.221.78.71)  13.615 ms  13.844 ms  13.731 ms
 8  185.60.112.157 (185.60.112.157)  13.279 ms  14.888 ms  14.702 ms
Bash:
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo traceroute -I  149.28.112.244
traceroute to 149.28.112.244 (149.28.112.244), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.644 ms  0.777 ms  0.905 ms
 2  host-212-158-xxx-xxx.dslgb.com (212.158.xxx.xxx)  5.797 ms  5.774 ms  5.748 ms
 3  63.130.127.213 (63.130.127.213)  5.970 ms  6.801 ms  6.780 ms
 4  ae15-100-xcr1.slo.cw.net (195.2.2.217)  6.507 ms  6.725 ms  6.832 ms
 5  ae21-xcr1.hex.cw.net (195.2.8.233)  8.407 ms  8.389 ms  8.362 ms
 6  ldn-b4-link.telia.net (62.115.61.190)  8.563 ms  6.716 ms  6.793 ms
 7  ldn-bb3-link.telia.net (62.115.134.134)  93.757 ms  93.193 ms  93.055 ms
 8  * nyk-bb2-link.telia.net (62.115.113.20)  93.415 ms *
 9  chi-b21-link.telia.net (62.115.137.59)  93.402 ms  93.459 ms  93.525 ms
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
13  149.28.112.244.vultr.com (149.28.112.244)  93.794 ms  93.628 ms  93.670 ms
Bash:
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo traceroute -I  155.133.247.155
traceroute to 155.133.247.155 (155.133.247.155), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.643 ms  0.770 ms  0.896 ms
 2  host-212-158-xxx-xxx.dslgb.com (212.158.xxx.xxx)  6.742 ms  6.720 ms  6.698 ms
 3  63.130.104.198 (63.130.104.198)  7.564 ms  7.779 ms  7.932 ms
 4  151.139.40.3 (151.139.40.3)  7.724 ms  7.704 ms  7.857 ms
 5  151.139.40.67 (151.139.40.67)  8.581 ms  8.560 ms  8.912 ms
 6  * * *
 7  * * *
 8  151.139.76.6 (151.139.76.6)  30.414 ms  30.425 ms  30.984 ms
 9  151.139.76.5 (151.139.76.5)  31.175 ms  31.131 ms  31.088 ms
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  155.133.247.155 (155.133.247.155)  31.244 ms  31.459 ms  31.419 ms
 

ManOfMeans

ULTIMATE Member
Im on VM


Tracing route to 149.28.112.244.vultr.com [149.28.112.244]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.0.1
3 14 ms 11 ms 16 ms 10.82.48.1
4 10 ms 12 ms 9 ms manc-core-2b-xe-8011-0.network.virginmedia.net [82.8.209.145]
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms 86.85-254-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.254.85.86]
8 30 ms 29 ms 19 ms ldn-b1-link.telia.net [213.248.84.25]
9 146 ms 126 ms 125 ms ldn-bb4-link.telia.net [62.115.143.26]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 123 ms 120 ms 120 ms chi-b21-link.telia.net [80.91.246.162]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 122 ms 121 ms 119 ms 149.28.112.244.vultr.com [149.28.112.244]



Tracing route to 155.133.247.155 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]
2 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.0.1
3 10 ms 11 ms 9 ms 10.82.48.1
4 10 ms 10 ms 12 ms manc-core-2a-xe-8011-0.network.virginmedia.net [82.8.209.61]
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 17 ms 18 ms 25 ms tele-ic-8-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.252.224.94]
8 16 ms 18 ms 15 ms 151.139.40.9
9 25 ms 22 ms 17 ms 151.139.40.69
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 49 ms 48 ms 48 ms 151.139.76.6
13 47 ms 46 ms 49 ms 151.139.76.5
14 * 49 ms 46 ms 81.171.68.15
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 47 ms 45 ms 60 ms 155.133.247.155
Trace complete.
 

BigAlbert

Regular Member
Thanks bukem909 and ManOfMeans, this is confirming mostly what I've seen so far, it's the latency into the core network that's key. It's the same result I've seen where if you're located close to London you get really low latency almost regardless of what ISP you use.
I have noticed with Virgin which I have at my workplace the peering latency isn't that good, my current FTTC connection either equals Virgin or beats Virgin ping wise to many locations sometimes by a fair amount.

So if I take the ping from bukem909 and add the difference into the core network which is roughly 8ms I end up with the ping results I'm seeing. Obviously I was hoping to see a lower peering latency from some ISP that would offset a higher ping to reach the core network.

Here's an example from my testing.

Home connection FTTC
Pinging 128.116.113.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=236
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=236
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=236
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=236
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=236
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=236

Virgin 200Mbps connection, 6ms to reach the VM core network as you'd expect from a full fibre connection.

Pinging 128.116.113.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=237
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=237
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=237
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=237
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=237
Reply from 128.116.113.1: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=237
 
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