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Openreach FTTP cable run question

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Good morning and Happy 2022 everyone,

My current service (an ok FTTC connection) runs underground to my house as we have no wires running overhead, a common setup on my street FTTP has been put in but runs to the nearest telegraph pole rather than following the existing setup, this is around 70m away in a straight line and has line of sight issues with tree in the way. There is a transit pole closer on the other side of the road but this lengthens the run to 85m.


Both distances are measured on google maps and go to the closest side of the building, however the point i need the line to come in is round the other side so there is an additional approx 20m to run.

This sounds like quite a long run to me and if not over the maximum distance very much on the cusp, am I right in this assumption? I think the cable runs past the end of my drive (at least i saw OR engineers with it open when teh fibre deployment was happening) if it does , does anyone know if there's an option to get it wired from the manholes there ?
 
Is that the actual distance from the nearest/serving CBT for your property though? Can you ID the CBT?
 
It's an irrelevant question.

Does your property show as "WBC FTTP" available in the BTW checker? Do ISPs let you order FTTP? Then place your order. How it's delivered is Not Your Problem™.

There is no "option to get it wired from the manholes" (in the sense of this being a choice to you) - Openreach will deliver it however is most appropriate to deliver.

If your property does *not* say WBC FTTP available, then you can't place an order anyway. If so, there's an Openreach contact form you can submit ("My neighbours can get fibre but I can't")

Edit: don't worry about the total length of the cable. The maximum length of the run from the CBT can be hundreds of metres, and is only really limited by the size of the pre-made cables in stock (extra long runs may have to be specially ordered). There is a maximum length of a span between poles, or from pole to house, but again that's not your problem. Normally you'll have an external customer splice point, and the additional run around the outside of the house will join here, so again that's not a problem.
 
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It's an irrelevant question.

Does your property show as "WBC FTTP" available in the BTW checker? Do ISPs let you order FTTP? Then place your order. How it's delivered is Not Your Problem™.

There is no "option to get it wired from the manholes" (in the sense of this being a choice to you) - Openreach will deliver it however is most appropriate to deliver.

If your property does *not* say WBC FTTP available, then you can't place an order anyway. If so, there's an Openreach contact form you can submit ("My neighbours can get fibre but I can't")

Edit: don't worry about the total length of the cable. The maximum length of the run from the CBT can be hundreds of metres, and is only really limited by the size of the pre-made cables in stock (extra long runs may have to be specially ordered). There is a maximum length of a span between poles, or from pole to house, but again that's not your problem. Normally you'll have an external customer splice point, and the additional run around the outside of the house will join here, so again that's not a problem.
Yes its available and i know what your mean when you say how its delivered is my problem but as its going to involve drilling in my walls and a new cable being wired to my house, and from what I can tell around a 20+m cable run around my house to get to a sensible entry point (which may not be covered by the free service) it is something I'm interested in
 
Is that the actual distance from the nearest/serving CBT for your property though? Can you ID the CBT?
If the CBT is the black box on the pole then yes, by ID should there be a code listed on it somewhere. Il grab a camera and go and look
 
20+ m from inside to CSP on the outside is perfectly fine and easily falls within the free install bracket..
Cable length snt as big an issue with fttp as it is with fttc. Sure there are rules as far as how long an overhead cable can be but if you have a carrier pole between you and the DP/CBT pole that hopefully solves that issue.
Line of sight issues can often be resolved with the help of neighbours or tree cutting.
The CBT ID can be difficult to read sometimes stamped into a metel band on the pole itself but quite often written in gold pen on the top of the cbt. Youll need a pretty good camera to see that.
 
If the CBT is the black box on the pole then yes, by ID should there be a code listed on it somewhere. Il grab a camera and go and look
Poorly phrased question by me - put another way - what you think may be / your CBT may not be, hence the talk of distances etc may be premature. Openreach could bring the connection into the property in numerous ways.

Does the wholesale checker for FTTP indicate that you will have an OH feed?
 
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The CBT ID can be difficult to read sometimes stamped into a metel band on the pole itself but quite often written in gold pen on the top of the cbt. Youll need a pretty good camera to see that.
The number on the CBT is pretty much irrelevant. When I said ID I should have sent identify, that is discern an actual CBT. The question was poorly phrased in haste. As you know not all black boxes on poles are CBT’s (lots of folk get copper DPs confused with CBTs) and proximity to an actual CBT doesn’t necessarily mean it’s your actual serving CBT - unless it on the pole (or chamber) right outside your premises.

[OT: a (permitted) drone could take a photo of any identification if one was particularly curious 😂]
 
This is absolutely the right first question, best confirm that.

Also TIL that information is even on that checker, thanks! :D
Not always, but if present, will be in the explanatory notes beneath the results box. Even then the information could be incorrect or incomplete. It’s guidance.
 
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