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Openreach - no FTTP plan

Virgin media? - No way! Used to be with them before. Very bad and always bad downtime with loss of broadband, badly congestion in my area.

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I do not get that price for my postcode. I will try a friends and see if it gets better.

I mean is your FTTC service bad/unstable/down a lot?
 
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Got direct email from Openreach for my area
Good Morning Mr ***********,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I tried calling the number you provided (01952******) to discuss your enquiry but wasn't able to get through.
I have taken a look at our records and I can see that we do have plans to upgrade some parts of the Madeley and Woodside areas to full fibre although we do not currently have any plans that cover your property. Our full fibre upgrade work tends to be planned for a small number of streets at a time and it is very unusual for plans to be made for an entire town or suburb to be upgraded under as single project.
We can't given out any specific information on why a given area is or is not included in our current plans as this would include sensitive commercial information but I can tell you that we take many factors into account including but not limited to, the time and cost of any required engineering work, the services currently available in the area, the number of additional properties for which service would be provided, and any likely problems obtaining permissions to work in the required areas.
Openreach are committed to providing full fibre to 25 million homes by 2026 so it is most likely we will expand our plans to include your property in the future.
We don't have any plans to upgrade your area right now, but we can keep you up to date when things change. To receive any future updates please go to our fibre checker, input your postcode, chose your address from the drop down, then scroll past the availability information and complete the Gigabit Fibre form and we’ll update you once plans change. www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband.
If you want to bring fibre to your property sooner there is an option you could look into
Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) on Demand, FTTP on demand is a product which a few select service providers offer, which will give you a full-fibre FTTP broadband, as a bespoke installation direct to your premises. It is available across the UK – even in areas that cannot reliably get FTTC.
Fibre on Demand differs from standard FTTP in a number of important ways. As the fibre is delivered to your premises as a custom build, a substantial installation. G.fast are available at your property. If you would like to look into this option you’ll need to contact a service provider to place an order.
You can find a list of service providers on this link, just scroll down the page and click on demand https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttp-provi...
If you have any further questions, please let us know. if we don't hear back from you by this time next week, we will mark your enquiry as resolved.
Kind regards,
***** **********
Fibre enquiries
Infrastructure solutions customer service
Openreach
We have the exact same issue in rural North Wales. The entire valley has been connected (FTTP) yet the 4 houses on our line were not included. The house at the end of our lane (approx 300 yards) has paid BT £25,000 for an ethernet connection direct to the cabinet. The fibre optic cable runs past our house but Openreach can't connect us because it's an ethernet connection?!?! Out of curiosity, we enquired with the BT USO and were quoted a staggering £76,000!! We have complained to everyone including the Welsh Government and CEO of Openreach but to no avail!! For reference, our guaranteed speed is 0.4mbps and we have a limited 4G signal via an external antenna! We feel your pain!!
 
The house at the end of our lane (approx 300 yards) has paid BT £25,000 for an ethernet connection direct to the cabinet. The fibre optic cable runs past our house but Openreach can't connect us because it's an ethernet connection?!?!
It's likely that is a private circuit, something like an EAD (although it will run to the exchange rather than cabinet). These sorts of circuits run point to point and you cant unfortunately just tap into it like a water main!

With FTTP it also needs to be connected from a designed-in distribution point for a given group of premises (a connectorised block terminal or CBT).

It's no good if the FTTP fibre spine cables comes sailing past your house to serve house a few hundred meters away. You cant just tap into it either.
 
We have the exact same issue in rural North Wales. The entire valley has been connected (FTTP) yet the 4 houses on our line were not included. The house at the end of our lane (approx 300 yards) has paid BT £25,000 for an ethernet connection direct to the cabinet. The fibre optic cable runs past our house but Openreach can't connect us because it's an ethernet connection?!?! Out of curiosity, we enquired with the BT USO and were quoted a staggering £76,000!! We have complained to everyone including the Welsh Government and CEO of Openreach but to no avail!! For reference, our guaranteed speed is 0.4mbps and we have a limited 4G signal via an external antenna! We feel your pain!!
That's pretty crazy. Don't feel my pain as I am fine with my current Sogea 80/20 but I rather my area to have full fibre. I am sure your will come soon maybe before me in 2026.
 
G.Fast is available in my post code. We tried it, and it wasn't good enough (below the even impacted speed) but then we've got a 299m line. I've been told yes, no, yes, definitely no for if we'll get FTTP by openreach as there's FTTP on the street next to ours (which has no G.Fast) so I asked them about the "near network" stuff.

I even lost it at one point and paid £350 to Cerberus to find out how much FTTPoD would be, and they came back with £12k which I opted not to pay for.

At least netomnia will be here soon. I keep hoping they'll finish early but if not then looks like Feb for me. I think openreach's decision to say well there's G.Fast and VDSL that's good enough is a bad choice. But I'm not openreach, and I'm not one of their customers either and doesn't appear I ever will be.
 
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G.Fast is available in my post code. We tried it, and it wasn't good enough (below the even impacted speed) but then we've got a 299m line. I've been told yes, no, yes, definitely no for if we'll get FTTP by openreach as there's FTTP on the street next to ours (which has no G.Fast) so I asked them about the "near network" stuff.

I even lost it at one point and paid £350 to Cerberus to find out how much FTTPoD would be, and they came back with £12k which I opted not to pay for.

At least netomnia will be here soon. I keep hoping they'll finish early but if not then looks like Feb for me. I think openreach's decision to say well there's G.Fast and VDSL that's good enough is a bad choice. But I'm not openreach, and I'm not one of their customers either and doesn't appear I ever will be.
U must be on a very long distance away from the G.fast eg: over 300m
 
U must be on a very long distance away from the G.fast eg: over 300m
Yep. No doubt why my results were poor. I went with EE and they had a 100Mbit speed guarantee which they weren't able to meet so I left without penalty or termination fees etc. For a while they stopped selling it here, but seems it's back again. They're offering it to people on my street (and i'm the first house on the street so chances are everyone else's line is even longer, and I checked, it's the same cabinet). If you walk it, it's 350m but I guess the cable takes a shorter path.

Anyway, I'm sure it's a great technology if you live closer. For me, it wasn't worth it and IMHO openreach shouldn't offer it when you've got a line as long as mine. But there was supposed to be some new G.Fast that would do gigabit up to 300m. Not sure what happened to it, not particularly bothered now either as we've not had openreach services since at least 2018.
 
If the cabinet are 350m away it will be 300m from G.fast to your property. Mine is 250m walk to the cabinet but the G.fast are 50m shorter so it will be 200m away that why I getting 230 to 240 on G.fast download with 35 to 40 upload. I think for max speed 330/50 you have to be within 150m or less from the G.fast pod.
 
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