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Poor EE (1pmobile) signal inside buildings

birid

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I'm on EE (1pmobile), and noticed that I have incredibly poor signal inside buildings. This is on an iPhone 12 mini. I have a foreign eSIM as well on the same phone, and that has roamed to both O2 and Vodafone both with full signal when the 1pmobile SIM has done poorly, which rules out issues with the phone or the buildings beyond general penetration.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why this might be? I was under the impression that EE had a wide variety of frequency bands so penetration of standard walls should be possible, and that 1pmobile plans had full access to those bands.
 
I'm on EE (1pmobile), and noticed that I have incredibly poor signal inside buildings. This is on an iPhone 12 mini. I have a foreign eSIM as well on the same phone, and that has roamed to both O2 and Vodafone both with full signal when the 1pmobile SIM has done poorly, which rules out issues with the phone or the buildings beyond general penetration.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why this might be? I was under the impression that EE had a wide variety of frequency bands so penetration of standard walls should be possible, and that 1pmobile plans had full access to those bands.
Vodafone and O2 use a base frequency lower than EE’s. 800Mhz O2 and Vodafone vs 1800Mhz on EE.

It’s excellent for range and penetrating buildings.

EE have started to deploy 700Mhz on 5G but it is still sparsely deployed. They have 800Mhz on 4G but it’s not deployed as consistently as O2 and Vodafone across their network.

Three use 700Mhz on 4G which they’re rolling out rapidly.
 
In some areas, EE only uses B3 1800MHz 4G. Meanwhile, if you look at O2 and Vodafone, they generally use B20 800MHz 4G which performs better indoors.

There's also a lot of O2 and Vodafone sites that have B1 2100MHz 4G as well!

Three has been distributing a lot of B28 700MHz 4G in areas which is the best we currently have for coverage, but they also have a lot of B3 only sites.
 
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I forgot both Vodafone and O2 are also re-deploying 900Mhz on 4G too, a frequency the other networks do not possess.
 
Ah that's a shame - thanks for the info all! Guess I should probably find a new provider...

(Out of curiosity, is there any documentation anywhere about a network's core bands vs ones that are lesser used? Or is the best advice to just search the forum until I find the right thing - though I think most of it is at least in this thread now!)
 
Ah that's a shame - thanks for the info all! Guess I should probably find a new provider...

(Out of curiosity, is there any documentation anywhere about a network's core bands vs ones that are lesser used? Or is the best advice to just search the forum until I find the right thing - though I think most of it is at least in this thread now!)
There you go https://mastdatabase.co.uk/gb/spectrum/
 
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Out of curiosity, is there any documentation anywhere about a network's core bands vs ones that are lesser used?
EE and Three use Band 3 (1800MHz) as their base layer, whereas Vodafone and O2 use Band 20 (800MHz). All networks aggregate, or combine, their base layer with other frequencies to increase capacity.

Theoretically, Vodafone and O2 should provide better indoor coverage. I'd test out both and see what works for you.
 
Vodafone and O2 use a base frequency lower than EE’s. 800Mhz O2 and Vodafone vs 1800Mhz on EE.

It’s excellent for range and penetrating buildings.

EE have started to deploy 700Mhz on 5G but it is still sparsely deployed. They have 800Mhz on 4G but it’s not deployed as consistently as O2 and Vodafone across their network.

Three use 700Mhz on 4G which they’re rolling out rapidly.
Am I right in thinking you can’t make voice calls on 5G yet? It’s something they are working on?
 
Am I right in thinking you can’t make voice calls on 5G yet? It’s something they are working on?
We only have 5G NSA in this country (except for a few SA pilots here and there), so VoLTE it is.. and that's the best you can get currently.
VoNR is far away most likely, both on operators' side as well as smartphones'.
 
We only have 5G NSA in this country (except for a few SA pilots here and there), so VoLTE it is.. and that's the best you can get currently.
VoNR is far away most likely, both on operators' side as well as smartphones'.

Thanks I thought so. I guess it'll take as long as MVNO's seemed to take to adopt VOLTE.
 
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