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Quick review of Three's new outdoor 5G hub

Three pushed a firmware update last night. Requires a Three SIM to receive it just to let the folks using the Y5 know. Only thing I can see is Roaming has been added. Prob stability improvements mostly.

***UPDATE : DO NOT INSTALL IF YOU ARE NOT USING THREE. APN IS HARDLOCKED AFTER UPDATE.***
Luckily I haven't updated, thanks for the heads up....
Would be a bit disappointed if I had updated and was out of the cooling off period.
Presume you could do a factory reset and remove your three sim at the same time.
 
Seems a bit illogical to effectively lock it to the Three APN, even if you were to put in a different SIM card you're still obligated to pay the Three contract

If anything Three should be laughing as you're paying them money while not using their network
 
Seems a bit illogical to effectively lock it to the Three APN, even if you were to put in a different SIM card you're still obligated to pay the Three contract

If anything Three should be laughing as you're paying them money while not using their network
Yeah I agree, im working on a way to try and get around it. I think I have figured out what they have done. I dont think its that the APN is locked. I think its IP Passthrough thats broken if its not a public IP. It forces the device to just constantly connect and reconnect. So in my case im using EE (primarily) and as you guys prob know its CG-NAT. It looks like this latest update has broken that somehow. Im trying to find a way to get around it/revert the update. I would avoid the update at all costs unless your using the three sim.
 
Three pushed a firmware update last night. Requires a Three SIM to receive it just to let the folks using the Y5 know. Only thing I can see is Roaming has been added. Prob stability improvements mostly.

***UPDATE : DO NOT INSTALL IF YOU ARE NOT USING THREE. APN IS HARDLOCKED AFTER UPDATE.***
Must be taking its time to get to all routers, mine has been online and connected to my VPN for around 50hrs without disconnecting (I'm assuming any upgrade would reboot the modem).

I have found this modem to be faster than the CPE pro2 at the same location indoors, at some point I intend to install it on the wall local to the windowsill its on now. Very happy so far.
 
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How do you get hold of one of these routers?
Its three proprietary, so can only be gotten by taking out a three home broadband contract, they are proving popular because for some reason they seem to offer better speeds for most people and have a lot of unlocked features built in like band and cell locking and they come unlocked and are also fairly future proof with a lot of band support. Maybe once they have been out for a while you will be able to get one from ebay second hand but for now seems to be just from Three directly on contract.
 
To get Vodafone / voxi to work you need to change the apn info with the three sim card inserted and then save and put voxi sim in.
Great router, shame you can't get it without signing up for a 24 month contract (I.e not ever owning it)
My 24 month contract was ending now, but you have to cancel, otherwise it's gonna stay a rolling contract until they put the price up and canel you.
My luck was, I logged into my acount and saw that new Outdoor router and because I wanted to keep the 5G for £20 anyway, I asked if I get the new Outdoor router (but I had to do a new 2y contract, but right I'm paying that anyway)

So got the new Router and they never asked back for the ZTE.
That thing just works. Like for trips or even backup. I have so much Data with voxi, I can just put my sim in and because we moved houses, vodafone is actually better

And I got a TP Link multi WAN VPN modem, so I connect both 5G Hubs and can control which device gets which internet, or automatically split 50% / 50%
or even if Three or vodafone gets down, it switch automatically

It's actually a really nice setup and with the new Outdoor hub I even asked for the first 6month half price. so paying £15, have two 5G hubs :D

but yeah that outdoor hub has a shitty interface and super annoying with the apn settings
 
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Depends what model you order. If you specifically ask for the outdoor router that’s what you’ll get. If you order an indoor one you’ll get a ZTE MC888 at present.


The eero router is actually quite good. I don't use it as my main router, but it is small, has matter support and can even connect to another wifi and use that if your 5g hub fails...and it's free (at least as long as you got the contract and if they want it back)
 
Hey all, (long time lurker - first time poster)

I currently own a ZTE MC7010 and a Huawei CPE Pro WIN. I managed to get a hold of the new outdoor hub from Three which is a custom device made by American firm Greenpacketdevice. The model is Y5-210MU.

This device is actually very good, I have tested it for 48 hours now and had consistently better speeds on both Three and EE than i was getting on either the 7010 or the WIN. The firmware on the Y5 has band locking and cell locking built in so no need for scripts to unlock that functionality. Im not sure what the antenna gain is on the Y5 but im gonna say its higher than the 9dBi on the 7010 given the signal improvements im experiencing.

I am not sure if 5CA is supported as ive yet to see it lock onto more than 4 bands at once. Where as on the 7010 i was consistently getting 5CA albeit one of those was Band 20 which is pretty useless anyways.

There is only mid band 5G in my area so I have no way of testing any high bands like n77 or n78. The only options for me here are N1, N7 or N28. N7 is always the fastest for me so i tend to lock on to that and get a solid 300+ on EE with an SINR of 26dB.

Anyways I just wanted to briefly share my experience with the new piece of kit and give it a thumbs up its definitely going to be my new primary CPE. It performs substantially better than either of the two I have used previously and the firmware is unlocked with a lot of options.

Hope this helps for anybody interested :)
My friend has this but some files won’t download for him.

I suspect it needs moving to ipv4 only and 3internet apn.

Also needs adult content removing.

Is there a user guide out?
 
My friend has this but some files won’t download for him.

I suspect it needs moving to ipv4 only and 3internet apn.

Also needs adult content removing.

Is there a user guide out?
No user guide unfortunately.

But you can modify the single allowed APN to IPV4 only. Adult content is controlled at the carrier level and has nothing to do with the CPE. He would need to contact the carrier to have that removed.
 
The only published user guide is the simple get started and has no more detail than the web pages and video.

THREE are keeping it simple and concentrating on end user control of the Eero with the outside CPE simply as a modem. I haven't got near one personally to see what is changeable but that is not really the market it is aimed at.
They appear to have come with a more open config and are likely to be locked down with further updates controlled by THREE as they develop their support and app.
 
No user guide unfortunately.

But you can modify the single allowed APN to IPV4 only. Adult content is controlled at the carrier level and has nothing to do with the CPE. He would need to contact the carrier to have that removed.
Talked my friend through it and it only gave IP and IP4v6 as they were having issues downloading work files. Set to IP and seemed to work fine.

Also got him to set up online account for Three and managed to disable adult content.

Happy egg.

I’ve not seen the kit in person yet.
 
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@deedscali1401 I'm using software version 130.00100.113.018 and can't see band locking, any ideas?
Yeah you need to be logged in as admin, then its the networking tab on the left. You will see Cell Selection and Lock Band.

Also dont put a three sim card in you have the unlocked factory firmware there. 018 is the one you want, if you put a three sim in it will update to 024 and that is the one that is locked down.

130.00100.113.018 (FACTORY OPEN)
130.00100.113.024 (LOCKED DOWN)

Ive got an exchange tomorrow with Three to get rid of this 024 unit I have and get a factory one again...thank god it was withing the first 30 days.
 
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Yeah you need to be logged in as admin, then its the networking tab on the left. You will see Cell Selection and Lock Band.

Also dont put a three sim card in you have the unlocked factory firmware there. 018 is the one you want, if you put a three sim in it will update to 024 and that is the one that is locked down.

130.00100.113.018 (FACTORY OPEN)
130.00100.113.024 (LOCKED DOWN)

Ive got an exchange tomorrow with Three to get rid of this 024 unit I have and get a factory one again...thank god it was withing the first 30 days.
Ta, managed to get into admin.
What I still haven't figured out is APNs...

I've tried EE and VF, neither work. When I insert a Three SIM it works, even with an EE or VF APN displayed.

Am I missing something?
 
Ta, managed to get into admin.
What I still haven't figured out is APNs...

I've tried EE and VF, neither work. When I insert a Three SIM it works, even with an EE or VF APN displayed.

Am I missing something?
That shouldnt be happening because you have the firmware people need/want.

Make sure your in admin mode.
Change the APN details by clicking on modify.
Save the details when you have edited them.
MAKE SURE to hit apply at the bottom on the main apn screen after thats done for the changes to take effect.
 
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