Bubbles121
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That's wildWell Vodafone are claiming that they need Google approval to implement RCS on iOS
That's wildWell Vodafone are claiming that they need Google approval to implement RCS on iOS
From a technical perspective that's nonsense, however given the glowing press release they gave Google's service last year to justify shutting down their own, it wouldn't surprise me if it's commercial approval due to some marketing payment they received, rather than technical.Well Vodafone are claiming that they need Google approval to implement RCS on iOS
Actually the exact opposite in this case. Apple have implemented by the book RCS, presumably to keep their Chinese customers happy, though the fact it took them so long is an issue.Apple are being malicious let's see how long that lasts.
So now they have to put RCS back into the IMS.![]()
It's the network IMS that needs to point to Jibe or Mavenir or the networks own servers etc. Once that's done then the IOS carrier profile can be updated, however I don't think carrier profile updates are the issue here (with the exception of some MVNOs that don't have their own).I believe the iOS carrier profile can point to Googles RCS (jibe?), and that is how VF plan to do it
jibecloud.net is I think Google's standards based cloud RCS service for network operators. The network still needs to add number routing to their IMS etc. In addition, if the servers are in the US they may not be legal under GDPR/UKGDPR.I believe the iOS carrier profile can point to Googles RCS (jibe?), and that is how VF plan to do it
for example:
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Three will do the same as their Enhanced Chat is based on jibe.
How can Apple fix a network not having an RCS server?My understanding is that as well as other small issues in the Apple RCS implementation, whilst RCS between iOS devices are end to end encrypted, RCS between iOS to Android are not (any one Android user in group).
Apple could fix this but apparently wants to be more involved in the RCS development and presumably less Google control.
Providers may adopt it fully when the main benefits of RCS are fully realised.
EEs server is already dodgy, issues such as it not working on WiFi, photos refusing to send, reactions not working properly etc.How can Apple fix a network not having an RCS server?
There are no "small issues" with Apple's RCS implementation that I'm aware of, would you care to elaborate?My understanding is that as well as other small issues in the Apple RCS implementation, whilst RCS between iOS devices are end to end encrypted, RCS between iOS to Android are not (any one Android user in group).
Apple could fix this but apparently wants to be more involved in the RCS development and presumably less Google control.
Providers may adopt it fully when the main benefits of RCS are fully realised.
Probably overload. It's had pretty much zero use for the last 5 years and now every updated Iphone on EE is trying to access it.EEs server is already dodgy, issues such as it not working on WiFi, photos refusing to send, reactions not working properly etc.
well one issue is Stickers sent by iOS users to Android devices will disappear after a few seconds on the recipient's phoneThere are no "small issues" with Apple's RCS implementation that I'm aware of, would you care to elaborate?
RCS does not support end to end encryption. Google's messaging client has end to end encryption between Android devices when NOT using RCS, because it uses Google's not-quite-RCS protocol when using Google's servers to talk to other Google Messaging clients. There is no way for this to work to any non-Google devices, unless Google want to release their own not-quite-RCS app for IOS, which would defeat the whole purpose.
My understanding is the networks are rapidly trying to undo the removal of their RCS servers.
yes it isjibecloud.net is I think Google's standards based cloud RCS service for network operators.
this should already be done if the network supports RCS via jibe for android users.The network still needs to add number routing to their IMS etc.
likely jibenet is an anycast and will pick the closest serviceIn addition, if the servers are in the US they may not be legal under GDPR/UKGDPR.
That shouldn't really work at all, as there's no mechanism in RCS to do it other than rendering as an image. So I'm quite impressed it even does that.well one issue is Stickers sent by iOS users to Android devices will disappear after a few seconds on the recipient's phone
No UK networks are doing that as far as I'm aware (EE might be but I think they use someone else). The announcements last year from Vodafone and O2 about "moving to Jibe" were really saying Android users phones are going to start using Google's Jibe servers as we're shutting down our own RCS. That's why the clients had to ask permission to share data with Google. The RCS servers are gone from O2, Vodafone and 3.yes it is
this should already be done if the network supports RCS via jibe for android users.
likely jibenet is an anycast and will pick the closest service
yeah, it's kinda cool. what isn't so cool is you’ll struggle to send a text to an Android user when your Wi-Fi connection is weak. And if you want to schedule an RCS message from your iPhone, you can only do it when texting other Apple devices.That shouldn't really work at all, as there's no mechanism in RCS to do it other than rendering as an image. So I'm quite impressed it even does that.![]()
The UP used by Apple doesn't support a lot of features as its still an old version, so users will miss out on the latest bits and bats built in..
And if Google need to approve it, then it probably means Voda need an Platform update to their RCS / IMS Platform, and its probably supported by them..
I might have a chat with my contact in the Enterprise Account team, as they are usually more switched on then CS or the Social Media Team..
If RCS comes to newtworks then woohool, if it doesn't then who cares!!!
well O2 moved in October last year to JibeNo UK networks are doing that as far as I'm aware (EE might be but I think they use someone else). The announcements last year from Vodafone and O2 about "moving to Jibe" were really saying Android users phones are going to start using Google's Jibe servers as we're shutting down our own RCS. That's why the clients had to ask permission to share data with Google. The RCS servers are gone from O2, Vodafone and 3.