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Replacing a Sky ADSL router with a 3rd party router

ForestDave

Member
Morning all,

I live out in the middle of a broadband slowpsot. The best I can get is 6Mbps, although Gigaclear 900Mbps is on the horizon.
In the meantime, as two of us are "working" at home, I need to get better Wi-Fi.

I have the black router that came with Sky ADSL which is woeful. I have tried to plug an Eero mesh system in and got precisely nowhere.

So what I want to do is get a third party modem/router that can be put into bridge mode(?) and can also support DHCP option 61 (MER) so Sky can authenticate. I then want to plug the EEros in and then distribute throughout a large house and office shed complex.

Question: Is there a list of ADSL Modem/Routers that work with Sky ADSL please, or if not what have folks got working?

Many thanks in advance

Dave
 

Mark.J

Administrator
Staff member
ISPreview Team
This may help:


The only thing I'd say is that I don't think you need to use Wireshark to extract your VDSL login and password from Sky’s router anymore. Some routers can just authenticate themselves, provided they support Sky's MER method (covered in the article above).

I think when it asks for the ADSL/VDSL login details then you can probably just use this on MER supporting kit:
  • In the username field, enter: abcdefgh@skydsl (or abcdefgh@skydsl.co.uk)
  • In the password field, enter: 1234567890abcdef
 

ForestDave

Member
This may help:


The only thing I'd say is that I don't think you need to use Wireshark to extract your VDSL login and password from Sky’s router anymore. Some routers can just authenticate themselves, provided they support Sky's MER method (covered in the article above).

I think when it asks for the ADSL/VDSL login details then you can probably just use this on MER supporting kit:
  • In the username field, enter: abcdefgh@skydsl (or abcdefgh@skydsl.co.uk)
  • In the password field, enter: 1234567890abcdef
 

ria1039

Casual Member
This may help:


The only thing I'd say is that I don't think you need to use Wireshark to extract your VDSL login and password from Sky’s router anymore. Some routers can just authenticate themselves, provided they support Sky's MER method (covered in the article above).

I think when it asks for the ADSL/VDSL login details then you can probably just use this on MER supporting kit:
  • In the username field, enter: abcdefgh@skydsl (or abcdefgh@skydsl.co.uk)
  • In the password field, enter: 1234567890abcdef
This isn't working for me with a Fritz!Box 3390. I have tried both this and the username/password extracted from Wireshark with no luck. Error messages vary but it's usually can't login with supplied credentials or ISP isn't responding to PPPoE requests.

Any Fritz!Box users out there with any ideas..? The only option I get is to supply a VLAN ID which is 101 by default. Nothing to select Sky, it's O2 or "other" so I'm now at a loss.

I used to use a Fritz!Box 7170 on Sky DSL and that worked, but the username/password for that is different and doesn't work on fibre anyway.

Thanks in advance,

Ria
 

Mark.J

Administrator
Staff member
ISPreview Team
If you're still on the same Sky account (i.e. you moved from ADSL to FTTC on the same ISP) then the login and password is probably still the same. But I'm not sure if the 3390 supports MER and I know AVM's more recent 7590 did have some connectivity issues with Sky. Have you tried asking AVM directly what they recommend?
 

Rolandrat

Member
Its been a good few years but I seem to remember having to ask Sky to turn on PPPoE authentication on the account, as they normally only do PPPoA.
 

ria1039

Casual Member
Thanks MarkJ and Rolandrat. The account pre-existed the switch to FTTC, but the username from the ADSL account is definitely different, I made a note of it before the switch, and the answer I got from Wireshark is totally different. I tried both with no joy.

I haven't tried AVM, but from what other people have said, they aren't very communicative these days, so given that our monthly payments have crept up, I think it's time to jump ship and find another ISP, we'll ask them before we sign up if the 3390 will work..!

Ria
 

Mark.J

Administrator
Staff member
ISPreview Team
I did use to have a contact in AVM but that was back in 2014. I'll check to see if he's still reachable, but suspect he isn't.
 

Mark.J

Administrator
Staff member
ISPreview Team
I managed to speak with my contact and he basically said that AVM have no plans to make the 3390 compatible with Sky MER. To quote..

Sky's MER is technically easy enough to get around, but AVM doesn't feel it is fair to customers to have to hack or spoof to use Sky Networks. Sky could add additional hardware identifiers in the future to further tighten their restrictions on hardware that would leave these customers stranded. So we have decided not to address this as a hack, but to try to address the overall governing against this compulsory router tactics with great success in Germany, Ireland, Italy, Finland, Netherlands and many other EU countries.

The effect is well documented in this link in German:
 

ria1039

Casual Member
I managed to speak with my contact and he basically said that AVM have no plans to make the 3390 compatible with Sky MER. To quote..
Hi Mark,

Thanks for that, I suspected as much. However I have solved the problem by another route. I was checking out alternative ISP's and had heard good things about Zen, so on checking their website I found that not only can they give me a good rate, they also supply a Fritz!Box 7530 as part of the package..!

I should have done that before I bought the 3390, shouldn't I..! However that was only £25 on eBay so no great loss and I can always resell it..!

Thanks for your help,

Ria
 
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