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Scancom SIM. Throttled?

dabigm

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I re-installed my games PC last night, and I had to do a whole lot of downloading games again. In excess of 300GB. I kicked off the process at midnight , when everyone was asleep and there wouldn't be any complaints about slow interwebs.

I was seeing some very fast speeds indeed at that time, for my location. In excess of 600mbit at times, but mostly around 400mbit. Anyway, about 150-200GB into the downloads (GTA5 alone is now 110GB!!!!) I noticed that I was getting about 20mbit. Odd I thought, but it's mobile 5G so perhaps it's the network.
When I got up this morning, it was still downloading and I had to pause the transfers.

I've since resumed that transfer queue and the same thing has happened again. I was getting 200 mbit download, consistently for about an hour, and now i'm getting 48mbit after downloading at 200mbit for an hour.

Am I being throttled?

The reason I ask is, I pulled out my phone, on the same network, and ran a speedtest on both my phone and my home 5G router that's doing the game downloads. Phone is doing 300mbit, 5G router is doing < 50mbit. There is only one three 5G mast here so it's not a case of one connected to a different tower. This is true of 4G as well, so it's not a different anchor point.

Does anyone else with a three scancom SIM see this?
 
Can't promise anything as I'm desperately out of any spare time and headspace, but will try to test this next week.
 
Can't promise anything as I'm desperately out of any spare time and headspace, but will try to test this next week.
thanks mate. it's just a hunch at the moment. It could just be network randomness but yeah I did put my phone in the same spot as the router and the phone was doing much better.
 
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@dabigm tried to start a test now (close to midnight) and it looks like either Three's 5G is knocked out or they're sleeping it.
All I'm getting is rubbish 4G speeds and latency.

Will try again tomorrow if I remember.
 
I've just realised that my Three SIM is the £5/m business one, not the scancom, however as I wrote last night I realised that Three must have lowered down the power for 5G.
I've been on EE and O2 these past couple of months and I haven't checked until now, but I am no longer getting 5G in my loft (partially also due to the aluminium/PIR insulation), but it used to be fine.
I get reasonable 5G in my first floor bedroom, probably reflections working better there.

Three's in a bit of a shambles..
 
looks like either Three's 5G is knocked out or they're sleeping it.
I think Three might sleep 5G at certain time overnight in some places, iduring the day I can get 4-500Mbps on 5G on Three from my upstairs bedrooms but overnight after 2-3am if I wake up during the night and decide to have a look at my phone there no 5G just slow 4G.
 
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I think Three might sleep 5G at certain time overnight in some places, in the days time I can get 4-500Mbps on 5G on Three from upstairs bedrooms but overnight after 2-3am if I wake up during the night and decide to have a look at my phone there no 5G just slow 4G.
Three sleep both b32 and n78 on my local mast, these bands turn off at 1.00 am and return at 6.00 am.

Luckily because of poor backhaul, it makes no difference whatsoever, they could just switch them off permanently an no one would even notice. 🙄
 
Three sleep both b32 and n78 on my local mast, these bands turn off at 1.00 am and return at 6.00 am.
My local mast might have the same bed time as 1am not checked if 5G still working then I definitely know it's gone by around 2-3am, not sure what bands get turned off then but durring them overnight hours you're lucky to get more than 1 or 2 Mbps on 4G.
 
My local mast might have the same bed time as 1am not checked if 5G still working then I definitely know it's gone by around 2-3am, not sure what bands get turned off then but durring them overnight hours you're lucky to get more than 1 or 2 Mbps on 4G.
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Yes normal three speeds for me are around 15-25 megs Razza, although on an odd occasion it has reached higher.

For a 1 or 2 meg service, I'd have to switch to O2. 😊

Saying that, unusually it's performing very well for a Saturday afternoon. 👍
 
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Yes normal three speeds for me are around 15-25 megs Razza, although on an odd occasion it has reached higher.

For a 1 or 2 meg service, I'd have to switch to O2. 😊

Saying that, unusually it's performing very well for a Saturday afternoon. 👍
Before Three put Pow in my area and upgraded the rooftops sites Three was a less than 5Mbps kind of networks in my street overnight it seems go back to that level of performance.
 
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I think Three might sleep 5G at certain time overnight in some places, iduring the day I can get 4-500Mbps on 5G on Three from my upstairs bedrooms but overnight after 2-3am if I wake up during the night and decide to have a look at my phone there no 5G just slow 4G.
I think they also reduced power, too, the 5G signal doesn't go into my loft now, not even at mid-day,it used to couple of months back.
 
Three sleep both b32 and n78 on my local mast, these bands turn off at 1.00 am and return at 6.00 am.

Luckily because of poor backhaul, it makes no difference whatsoever, they could just switch them off permanently an no one would even notice. 🙄
No 5G here in the morning since I came back from holiday in mid march. There is no fixed time for its return can reappear anytime in the afternoon or evening. It appears to be demand driven as it always comes back if I stream a video. Still get about 100mbps even when there is no 5G
 
No 5G here in the morning since I came back from holiday in mid march. There is no fixed time for its return can reappear anytime in the afternoon or evening. It appears to be demand driven as it always comes back if I stream a video. Still get about 100mbps even when there is no 5G
Oh that's a weird scenario Somerpark, never heard of that before on a PoW.

The other 2 PoW's in Irvine and the 2 in Stevenston and Ardrossan always seem have 5G on any time I've visited.
 
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Oh that's a weird scenario Somerpark, never heard of that before on a PoW. 🙄

The other 2 PoW's in Irvine and the 2 in Stevenston and Ardrossan always seem have 5G available any time I've visited.
Yes it's weird, it also affects n1 from the old mast. I have only seen n1 once since march, again in the afternoon but it was replaced by n78 from the PoW within an hour.
 
Yes it's weird, it also affects n1 from the old mast. I have only seen n1 once since march, again in the afternoon but it was replaced by n78 from the PoW within an hour.
What's the old mast that has n1 on it, enb 50230?
 
I continue to be baffled and still trying to learn more.

I have recently been reading up on Self-organizing Network (SON). Defined around the time of LTE it is based on machine learning and going forward no doubt by AI. I think all the providers will be using some form of SON by now.

SON can be in the distributed network kit or included centrally in their Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) activities or more likely a mix of both.

Typical SON functions are shown in the attached image. What I think we are seeing is a combination of all of them with particular emphasis on the CCO and ES elements at night.

When THREE introduced 5G around here it would connect and be retained on high data throughput (including speed tests) but if high throughput usage was not maintained it threw you back to 4G. This continues now but speed tests to the most common sites no longer maintain the 5G connection. Late evening and during the night 5G and certain LTE CA combinations disappear.
 

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