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Slow EE 5G

dabigm

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I've lived in a 5G area since 2019. Three put a mast in, followed by O2.
EE don't list 5G as available, but yet it's here.

This is the speed I'm getting.

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This is in Biggleswade.

Now it's not bad per-se. Upload is very poor I'd say. I wonder when I'll see the 1000+mbits on 5G that some people in places like London see. I guess the networks are putting lower bandwidth sites up outside of cities?

Really puzzled why bandwidth is only for city dwellers. Anyway, just thought you'd like to see what EE 5G looks like outside of a city.
 
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@dabigm That speed is pretty consistent with what I'm seeing in NLondon.
I don't think EE has capability nowadays to deliver 1Gbps via 5G, they only got 40MHz n78. Three is the only one who has delivered 1Gbps+ from what I've seen.

Your upload is rubbish. See if you can make the router pick another LTE primary band. I'm on B7-2600 MHz (20MHz bandwidth) for example and I can do 50-90 Mbps on upload. Here's me now:


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Its not really an issue, more just the infancy of the rollout where 5G cell density isn't high and most sites are 4G only but act an an anchor for the 5G.

A couple of speculations I have for your situation:
1) that the 4G site you're connected to is either low in specification (perhaps Band 3 only) or sees high load and therefore the 4G bearer can only deliver sub-100Mbps throughput, and with the 5G (assumed EE's n78 @40Mhz) added on top gets you over the 300's.
For urban sites, where the load may be lower (which I know seems strange to think possible), or the 4G deployment is greater (2x B3 + 2x B7 + B1) to meet demand then the 4G bearers can deliver much more throughput (600-700Mbps) but 5G (assumed EE's n78 @40Mhz) will still only add a couple of hundred Mbps on top, since that's all that can be delivered from the spectrum EE own (to get the 1Gbps-ish speeds you seem to expect 5G to deliver)

2) you're connected to a reasonably new 4G site with reasonably good capacity, but one that lacks n78 5G and EE have enabled n1 DSS so you're now seeing the 5G symbol but no actual increase in throughout. Thats to be expected as 5G isn't more spectrally efficient than 4G, it just allows for wider bearers (e.g. Three's 100Mhz n78) than 4G does, which is limited to 20Mhz.
 
That is not slow 5G 😂 if it was less than 100mbps I could agree.

As noted above, only using 40mhz of spectrum for it wouldn’t allow much difference on it.

Three has 100mhz hence you see in few locations 500-1000mbps or more.
 
@dabigm That speed is pretty consistent with what I'm seeing in NLondon.
I don't think EE has capability nowadays to deliver 1Gbps via 5G, they only got 40MHz n78. Three is the only one who has delivered 1Gbps+ from what I've seen.

Your upload is rubbish. See if you can make the router pick another LTE primary band. I'm on B7-2600 MHz (20MHz bandwidth) for example and I can do 50-90 Mbps on upload. Here's me now:


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it's my phone not a router(rog phone 3). Discovered it won't do 700MHz 5G either not that I think the mast I was near did it anyway.
 
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That is not slow 5G 😂 if it was less than 100mbps I could agree.

As noted above, only using 40mhz of spectrum for it wouldn’t allow much difference on it.

Three has 100mhz hence you see in few locations 500-1000mbps or more.

True I mean the upload is bad. 300+ mbit EE is more or less the same as what I get on Three but three gives me much greater upload. I just wonder where these lucky people are that are seeing gigabit+ down and hundreds up :)
 
True I mean the upload is bad. 300+ mbit EE is more or less the same as what I get on Three but three gives me much greater upload. I just wonder where these lucky people are that are seeing gigabit+ down and hundreds up :)
Where are you finding this people? :)
 
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Where are you finding this people? :)
forums mostly. Quite often the subject of "Three bad ... grumble grumble" pops up followed by screenshots that make your jaw drop of people getting 1300mbit or so .. same for EE and Occasionally Voda. Never seen people do it for O2 though.
 
forums mostly. Quite often the subject of "Three bad ... grumble grumble" pops up followed by screenshots that make your jaw drop of people getting 1300mbit or so .. same for EE and Occasionally Voda. Never seen people do it for O2 though.
Notably it’s around Bradford I think I seen 1gbps and somewhere in Liverpool.

YouTube has a few videos
 
Notably it’s around Bradford I think I seen 1gbps and somewhere in Liverpool.

YouTube has a few videos
I'm not finding anything anywhere to suggest EE can go (even close) to 1 Gbps. Feel free to share if you do.
 
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